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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by tedmiston »

IMcD23 wrote: post #356
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> No monitor announcement They announced a 5k monitor that they developed with LG which charges the MBP. You can attach devices to that and it's like a "hub".

Perusing their website makes it appear that they have killed off the Apple Thunderbolt Display.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by tedmiston »

grub5000 wrote: post #290
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

I cringed when Apple's event started with a video claiming how great their products are for disabled people, just the same as Microsoft did the day before. I don't recall either of them then going on to build on that with any product/feature announcements...

The accessibility features in iOS go very deep. Without a doubt they are one of the best computer manufacturers in that market.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by tedajax »

josho wrote: post #293
nkw wrote: post #164

Wow. I hate to say it, but I thought the products in Microsoft's event yesterday were way more exciting than anything from Apple lately. This plus macOS Sierra seems like a whole lot of "meh". This coming from a guy whose first computer was an Apple IIe, who owned a Mac Cube, and whose daily driver is a trashcan MacPro.

Sadly I have to agree. I wonder if Jobs really was that much of a visionary that the company is lost for ways to innovate without him.

I try not to buy too much into the Jobs hype because it falls into the same line of thinking that leads to the "Great Man" theory which I don't put much stock in.

That said he did seem to have a way of understanding the whole ecosystem that Apple was trying to sell. In the post Jobs era the number of products and configurations available is getting pretty unruly and you now have an issue where you can't plug an iphone 7 out of the box into a new MBP without a dongle. That's pretty disjointed and strange. The TouchBar also seems to be misplaced on the MBP which every time I've had one for work is pretty much immediately folded up and put under a thunderbolt display (now requiring another dongle) and making the TouchBar worthless.

So yeah I don't know if you need Jobs specifically but you certainly need someone looking over the entire product range and making sure it makes some amount of sense.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by JorgeGT »

massysett wrote: post #449
dguaraglia wrote: post #410

As a heavy Vim user, this might be my last Apple development machine. I can always remap Caps Lock to Esc, but years of muscle memory > a flashy feature I have little use for. There's nothing I'd pay extra for in this new machine: touchbar is a meh, biometric authentication has been around since ~2005, the hardware specs are finally catching up with what everyone else has been shipping for a couple years, the new key…

Linux is not bad. But nobody is making decent Linux hardware, and the instant you slap Linux onto a Windows machine, battery life plummets. My days buying Windows machines and struggling to get Linux on them are over. I'd rather buy a Mac and get a Unix I can use without having to install it. Is anyone actually selling a decent preinstalled Linux laptop? If I really wanted to use Linux I would rather buy a Windows la…

> Is anyone actually selling a decent preinstalled Linux laptop?

I have heard good things about the Ubuntu line of Dell: http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-lapt... The Precision 5510 with a Quadro GPU and 32 Gb of RAM seems gorgeous.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by mtift »

vegasje wrote: post #346

Seems like my next laptop won't be a MacBook Pro. Can anyone recommend a good Linux laptop that will offer up to 32gb of RAM and have decent battery life?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t460

If you need 32GB of RAM, then the ThinkPad T460 would qualify. And Lenovo claims it has 18 hours of battery life, which seems more than decent to me.

I switched from MacBook Pros to the ThinkPad T Series running GNU/Linux a few years ago and I have not been disappointed. My only caveat is that I like to run Debian stable, and that seems to work better on older ThinkPads, especially for things like video chats. In my experience, the newer ThinkPads work better with distros that use newer kernels (at least I think that is why), such as Ubuntu or Fedora.

I would have suggested the T460s, which is lighter, but that only goes up to 20GB of RAM.

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Post by audessuscest »

kgwgk wrote: post #591
audessuscest wrote: post #224

wtf Euro prices are 200€ higher than dollars price ?! $1,499.00 -> 1 699,00 € for the first model

Taxes are one of the reasons.

It used to be equal so I don't think that's the reason and more than 200€ (since $ < €) just for taxes is a lot.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by kgabis »

40acres wrote: post #252

I was very intruged by the Dell XPS 13/15, especially since they come in a developer edition which runs Ubuntu. I've been holding off on a purchase because I wanted to see what Apple would come up with, Dell looks pretty strong today.

I have a 2016 XPS 15 and it's nowhere near a mbp when it comes to build quality. Keyboard and touchpad are much worse than on my 2010 mbp 13, palm rests are made of grease-absorbing plastic, fans can get VERY loud and it's impossible to open it with one hand. It just sits in my drawer nowadays.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by meerita »

throwanem wrote: post #324
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

> Microsoft introduced a 28" desktop PC No. Microsoft introduced an entirely new kind of tool for digital artists. I'm not one myself, but the Surface Studio makes me wish I were. And the people I know who are, are over the moon about it. They can't wait to get their hands on one. Yes, it's Microsoft that hit it out of the park, and made Apple look amazingly weak by comparison. Today's event wouldn't have been partic…

Digital artists? I could program in that machine and be happy :). The only thing I would love is to have the Surface Studio but with OS X.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Void_ »

mrgreenfur wrote: post #554
overcast wrote: post #326

Ugh. I don't know what to do here. I've been waiting for Mac updates for ages, and this is what we get. My 2008 Mac Pro is maxed out on upgrades, and has been on the fritz lately. I can't go forever on an 8+ year old machine. Especially one that is no longer "officially supported" by Apple, and now requires 3rd party patches to install Sierra and its updates. Microsoft's Surface presentation yesterday was VERY tempti…

I went hackintosh a few years ago and while it's got tons of it's own headaches, its a good way to get solid hardware that you can pick out yourself. I won't pretend that I ever press 'install updates' without a few hours to spare and db backups ready.

I used Hackintosh for about a year as primary macOS development machine.

Updates were a headache and the inability to install pre-release software.

But with Xcode and Swift being so slow I'm thinking about going back there and just getting the 4ghz i7...

Another option is a Mac Pro, but I really don't have 3000+ money to spend on a computer...

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