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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ben174 »

te_platt wrote: post #367

I've been looking forward to this for while now but my first reaction is that I don't think I need a new laptop. And I really wanted a new laptop. It looks nice, the last model looks nice too. The touch bar looks like it could be nice, 95% of my time I use an external keyboard. The new display looks really nice, 95% of my time I use two large external monitors. The USB-C ports will in the long run be more convenient,…

It'll be interesting to see if Apple releases a new external USB-C keyboard with touch bar. I'd expect it to be priced around $150.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by yoodenvranx »

inputcoffee wrote: post #335

Everyone seems disappointed but I think the reason is this: There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. If you want real innovation, you need new form factors: voice recognition, VR, intelligent devices and so on. The laptop is excellent at what it does and the only thing you can really do is make it faster and lighter.

> There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop.

Just imagine they would make the thing 5 mm thicker and fill all the space with battery. Instant 2-3 day non-stop runtime. That's what I'd like to see.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by slantyyz »

lloyd-christmas wrote: post #318
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

> in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. A lot of people have desktops, myself included. I'm not really sure where you got such an impression.

>> A lot of people have desktops, myself included. I'm not really sure where you got such an impression.

Not just that... If nobody uses desktops, why would Apple waste so much engineering and design resources on something like the iMac if there's no market?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by iLoch »

rayiner wrote: post #259
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

> Microsoft introduced a 28" desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore.

"a 28" desktop PC" is a bit of an understatement. It's a huge low-latency touch display which works like a drafting table.

> nobody uses desktops anymore

There's a desktop on most desks in our office. A Macbook is certainly an alternative option but not if you're looking for a large touchscreen display.

> For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen and quad-core CPU

If there was really a performance problem I think a lot more people would be upset with what was announced. Last gen means more stability and likely cooler temperature hardware. Also, does the 15" MBP have a detachable/touch screen? Does it come with Windows? These are real considerations for potential Surface adopters.

The Macbook is simply a laptop. There's no problem with that, but Surface is selling more than that, so a direct comparison on cost and performance isn't really fair. Or are you suggesting Apple is the only company capable of putting newer hardware into a computer?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by DerekL »

grub5000 wrote: post #290
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

I cringed when Apple's event started with a video claiming how great their products are for disabled people, just the same as Microsoft did the day before. I don't recall either of them then going on to build on that with any product/feature announcements...

What exactly are you looking for that they aren't making? I don't know about Windows, but Macintosh and iOS have all sorts of software features for accessibility, and they've had for years.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by djhworld »

nodesocket wrote: post #189
verandaguy wrote: post #176

I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) by the lack of HDMI and DisplayPort/Thunderbolt ports. I'm even more surprised by the lack of a physical escape key. I'm concerned that it could break some applications (Vim, Emacs, all kinds of command-line stuff), even if isn't as big a deal with Apple's non-developer user base. ... At least they kept the 3.5mm jack.

Map "esc" to caps lock should work.

I have Ctrl mapped to my caps lock key :(

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by distrill »

mindo wrote: post #345

They should have called it "MacBook Hipster". Call me stupid, but this spring I bought mbp 13" mid-2012 model not because it's the cheapest one they have, but because that's the only one they had with swappable hdd, ram, battery and even with ethernet port that I personally don't care that much about. I much rather have slightly lower specs but when the day comes and my ram is corrupted or i need ssd replacement I co…

They're not going to...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by dguaraglia »

As a heavy Vim user, this might be my last Apple development machine. I can always remap Caps Lock to Esc, but years of muscle memory > a flashy feature I have little use for.

There's nothing I'd pay extra for in this new machine: touchbar is a meh, biometric authentication has been around since ~2005, the hardware specs are finally catching up with what everyone else has been shipping for a couple years, the new keyboard is horrible, Siri is the new ubiquitous feature nobody wants, USB C... meh.

I wonder if 2017 will finally be the year software developers go back to Linux machines? If only the story for mixed DPI displays was solid, I think it might finally be The Year of Desktop Linux :P.

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