"Emoji Bar"
Seriously, who did Apple talk to (besides their navels) in designing this? No more dongles, Apple. Not on a pro-level device.
MacBook Pro
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Re: MacBook Pro
#222I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) by the lack of HDMI and DisplayPort/Thunderbolt ports. I'm even more surprised by the lack of a physical escape key. I'm concerned that it could break some applications (Vim, Emacs, all kinds of command-line stuff), even if isn't as big a deal with Apple's non-developer user base. ... At least they kept the 3.5mm jack.
Map "esc" to caps lock should work.
That's not necessarily comfortable for everyone, and in any case, Caps may already be mapped to something else. (Personally, I've got vim-arpeggio and my Normal Mode key sequence is simultaneously mashing ).
My point is, it shouldn't be necessary. Most people don't remap keys if they're using editors on a server because many people might use those, so setting up a personal configuration could be counterproductive and interfere with other users. If the soft key conflicts with the editors in any way, this could cause a lot of annoyance.
Re: MacBook Pro
#223There's a 13" MBP model that lacks Touch Bar, featuring normal function keys.
Apple is using last year's Skylake processors (6th-generation), not Kaby Lake (7th-generation), even though some OEMs are starting to ship hardware with Kaby Lake right now.
>Retina display
>15.4-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology; 2880-by-1800 native resolution at 220 pixels per inch with support for millions of colors
No 4K display on the 15" models.
The GPU configurations are as follows based on the order page:
Intel Iris Graphics 540 (13" sans Touch Bar)
Intel Iris Graphics 550 (13" with Touch Bar)
Radeon Pro 450 with 2GB memory (15")
Radeon Pro 455 with 2GB memory (15" top-end)
Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB memory (both 15" models, optional)
As a WebGL developer, I'm really happy to see the Intel HD Graphics 4600 chipset die. It's basically been the performance target for consumer-oriented web applications for years now. Unfortunately, that target will still linger until older models finally reach obsolescence.
Re: MacBook Pro
#224wtf Euro prices are 200€ higher than dollars price ?!
$1,499.00 -> 1 699,00 € for the first model
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#22516GB RAM max, DP1.2 (so no 5k display support), worthless Touch Bar when I use my current MBP dual monitor with the lid closed. Pass.
Sadly I really wanted something better since I'm on an old 2012 MBP that badly needs an upgrade but I'm not dropping $1500+ for something that doesn't support 32GB and 5k displays.
Re: MacBook Pro
#226I think I am a bit disappointed by the Touch Bar. I can see it being more annoying than useful. They could have set themselves apart by doing something grandiose like having small oled screens for each key that are changing dynamically according to apps and keyboards. But, I guess this time of true risks are gone.
I can see it going both ways. Some power users will completely customize the touch bar, while others will just be annoyed at it.
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#227Is Apple completely out of touch with reality? The Mac Book Pro starts with 256GB? Same processor as my current 13in MBP? Disappointed.
It's not the same processor at all though?
Re: MacBook Pro
#228I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) by the lack of HDMI and DisplayPort/Thunderbolt ports. I'm even more surprised by the lack of a physical escape key. I'm concerned that it could break some applications (Vim, Emacs, all kinds of command-line stuff), even if isn't as big a deal with Apple's non-developer user base. ... At least they kept the 3.5mm jack.
How would you do external monitors?
I suppose either via USB-C, or using a dongle that connects to it.
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#229Interestingly they removed the pricing from their landing page, this morning the Macbook pro prices (for the old gen) were pretty prominent at the top of the page, above the fold and above any images of the computer.
The 13 inch now starts at $1,499 (but no touch bar at all unless you spend at least $1,799), up from $1,299.
The 15 inch now starts at $2,399, up from $1,999.
If you want to compare the copy, you can see the old version cached here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z7BWPC9...
Re: MacBook Pro
#230What a waste of my time, was really expecting something better than this.