No USB-C port? That's I call consistency!
All four ports are Thunderbolt 3, which is USB C compatible, plus some extra features.
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#332Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.
Four standard (non-proprietary) multi-use ports is a complaint? No innovative features? What do you call a ribbon display that no one has ever done before? No expansion - nothing new to the MBP line.
The issue is that the MBP line previously had zero of these ports and now they have zero of anything else. That means we have to go buy adaptors so that we can use our hard drives, power adaptors, iPhone/iPad charge cables, and other peripherals.
It's nice that these aren't proprietary cables, but I'll have to spend over $100 on adaptors, or wait two years until there are cheaper alternatives.
Lastly, there may be 4 ports in total, but since 1 is used for charging, there are effectively 3. Not a deal-breaker going from 4 to 3, but definitely a problem going from 2 to 1 on the low-end MBP.
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#333I think my next ultrabook is going to be the new Dell xps 13(Kaby Lake) or Razer Blade Stealth. Probably not mac anymore.
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#334The base model of the 13" with touch bar price increases from the current $1399 to $1799. That certainly surprised me and is substantial. Also, why would anybody buy an air now? It is worse in every possible category.
I think the reason you'd buy an Air is for the regular good old keyboard (without Touch ID) for those of us that want a real Escape key.
Well the low end model of the new MBP has the F keys instead of a touch bar. But it is still $200 more than the previous base MBP.
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#335Everyone seems disappointed but I think the reason is this:
There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop.
If you want real innovation, you need new form factors: voice recognition, VR, intelligent devices and so on.
The laptop is excellent at what it does and the only thing you can really do is make it faster and lighter.
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#336Would be curious to know if they tested the Touch Bar below the keyboard instead of above it.
I wonder if, as the concept further evolves, the bar might become larger or migrate locations. The comparisons they made to the original PowerBook were interesting, in that it really showed how constant incremental changes really add up in the long term.
Edit: Another possibility is to integrate an OLED display into the trackpad too, so then you have haptics as well, and could interact with both mouse and touch bar with one hand.
[Reposted my comment from the other thread.]
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#337DAAAMN what a disappointment. No Mac Mini, no iMac... Well, might as well not buy a new computer afterall... :S
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#338This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…
> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…
> Microsoft introduced a 28" desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore.
The fraction of desktops vs. laptops shipped (~40%-~60%) has been holding steady for years. https://www.statista.com/statistics/272595/global-shipments-...
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#339I was very intruged by the Dell XPS 13/15, especially since they come in a developer edition which runs Ubuntu. I've been holding off on a purchase because I wanted to see what Apple would come up with, Dell looks pretty strong today.
I bought one a few years ago. Worst laptop I've ever bought!
The keyboard was broken right out of the box. They replace it, reluctantly. I always had problems with the touchpad after that.
The CPU fan went out after a year. Then I had lots of trouble with replacements after that.
Ugh. Much happier with my Macbook Pro.
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#340Apple is being run more and more by marketers, rather than by techies. As a developer, I don't want to see "emojis" on my keyboard, but I do want to be able to plug in any device I need in that exact moment, without looking for a right dongle. Apple needs to stop sacrificing usability for "looks".
> Apple is being run more and more by marketers, rather than by techies.
Yes. Today's the day that Apple became irrelevant.