I'm probably too late to ask, but how do self-driving cars handle 4-way stops? How does it know when it's time to go?
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Never is a good time to re-read Rand.
Any argumentation?
Apparently, it is very detached from reality.
I cannot judge for myself having not read them yet.
The only people who suggest them are people who I do not respect (rich assholes or people who think they should be rich assholes) or people I not do not know mixed with people insulting them.
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#913Isn't this hackernews?? So many "but what if this and that and this..." & "and yeah let's see if it can handle X & Y" This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars! That's akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 "because of this & that & this..." Don't we have to start somewhere ?? Aren't there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it's an evolutionary process - we…
And in this case, it's even more important than just being the first from a market perspective. Being first here allows Tesla to acquire a ton of data for their ML to churn on. Data is the monopoly that makes tech companies like Facebook so valuable today.
Facebook open sources most of their infrastructure, and anyone can copy their designs because they're fully public.
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train networks and subways are significantly more expensive to build, operate and maintain, even electrified ones. Roads + autonomous electric cars are hard to beat in terms of efficiency, utility and ease of operation.
Efficiency of what though? Space? Roads take up way more space than tracks. Efficiency of cost? Roads are very expensive. Often more expensive per passenger mile than railroads. Efficiency of energy use? Moving a 2000kg electric car around for 1 person is never going to be efficient. Efficiency of through-put? Roads even with autonomous cars will never have the throughput of a train-line. Also I think you significant…
Hahaha are you joking?
Roads are indispensable and essential for last mile connectivity. No matter if trains and subways become 10 times more popular they will always exist in addition to the road infrastructure. Thus autonomous electric cars are a huge boon, its just common sense.
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#915I'm probably too late to ask, but how do self-driving cars handle 4-way stops? How does it know when it's time to go?
Many times humans are bad at it too, especially when pedestrians are involved.
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>what Musk spins, and reality. The reality is that they are the first serious electric car company. A tiny enterprise that took on the old Detroit giants and is winning. When you see people putting down hard earned cash for something three years into the future, they are not being tricked, they are investing in disruption. He's such a terrible orator you couldn't describe him as a charlatan. It's his actions and peop…
I'm not at all implying that the money will go poof. What I do mean is that inability to meet demand is actually an incredibly serious problem for a car manufacturer - one that's more closely associated with failing Soviet enterprises, regardless of spin to the contrary. Having three years of cars in your backlog isn't winning. Waiting three years for your car to arrive isn't revolutionary. Meanwhile, Detroit produce…
> Having three years of cars in your backlog isn't winning. Waiting three years for your car to arrive isn't revolutionary.
By this logic, Apple is a huge disappointment because they won't give me my iPhone 8S until 2019.
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#917Interesting for two reasons: 1. It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion). 2. Despite knowing about and following news about driverless cars for a while, there was something surprisingly (to me) compelling about watching the video. It's like you get a little taste of the full A to B that it can give you (door to door). Who wants to speculat…
"It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion)." Even now, several years into the current news/development arc of self-driving cars, I still can't believe this is going to be the future. We're really never going to european (or japanese) style train networks ? We're really going to keep binging on roads ? We, as a nation of fat slobs [1] are re…
Self driving cars change what roads mean. Once we get to full fledged self driving taxi culture, cars won't park. Car sharing will be common at the cheaper end. So it becomes a lot more like busses. Much smaller fleet on the road. I expect that roads will get pedestrianized, returning them to common usage, because a Google car will calmly stop if a child is kicking a ball in the road.
Trains are intrinsically unequal, they serve hub towns at best and cities only at worst, they are dirty, cramped, noisy, unprivate and they don't go when or where you want to go. Even with Google maps seaming together journeys out of trains and busses, you end up waiting and walking a lot. And trains are an intrinsic monopoly with a staggering up front investment, you can't make them better with market forces. I foresee self driving cars cannibalizing the train's market of people who just want to pay for journeys rather than the vehicle.
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I'm not at all implying that the money will go poof. What I do mean is that inability to meet demand is actually an incredibly serious problem for a car manufacturer - one that's more closely associated with failing Soviet enterprises, regardless of spin to the contrary. Having three years of cars in your backlog isn't winning. Waiting three years for your car to arrive isn't revolutionary. Meanwhile, Detroit produce…
> Waiting three years for your car to arrive isn't revolutionary. Context : No other car manufacturer will have a comparable EV on the road in the next 3 years. I will take what Tesla gives me.
The Bolt ships in a couple months.
It doesn't have the self driving hardware, it's otherwise comparable to the Model 3.
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"It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion)." Even now, several years into the current news/development arc of self-driving cars, I still can't believe this is going to be the future. We're really never going to european (or japanese) style train networks ? We're really going to keep binging on roads ? We, as a nation of fat slobs [1] are re…
People enjoy space and privacy. And income inequality means that people can literally afford to pay for other people to not be near them as they travel. Busses and trains and other mass transport will return when income inequality is reduced to the point where the amount it costs people to pay for their own space is no longer affordable for them, but if you're earning 500 times the person next to you, you'll happily…
Trains are an artefact of income inequality. Someone can afford to build them and it's not you. Someone has all the leverage over whether you get a ticket to ride and at what price, and it's not you.
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I laughed out loud when I googled "tsla" after watching the video and the top headline in the news section of the google results was "Analyst doubts the new move by Tesla Motors." Clicking on the article for humor's value, I continued to read: > However, Edmunds.com, Inc. analyst Jessica Caldwell questions the value of purchasing a self-driving car before regulations catch up. Caldwell said that, meanwhile, competito…
Nobody would be developing mass-market self-driving cars right now if not for Musk.
dude, tesla isn't even on the list.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#History