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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by levelist_com »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

As a person that owns both a Samsung Washer & Dryer (they just did a recall on top load washers I believe), a Samsung Refrigerator, and at one point a Samsung television, I can assure you all of their products (that I have owned or currently own) are poorly designed, and more so, poorly manufactured garbage. I will never knowingly buy a Samsung product again. I replaced the TV after it came out about their efforts to track user behavior, etc.. The TV and its apps were garbage anyhow. Stay away from Samsung.

OTOH, the Galaxy S3 wasnt too bad, but perhaps that's b/c I have been conditioned to bad phones since every phone I've owned since the Motorola flip & the Razr has been complete shit.

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Post by tomjen3 »

andrewla wrote: post #199
gman83 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the newspaper themselves who bypass their own firewall when you come from google. They can easily disable it if they want to.

They have to be very careful -- Google's guidelines are very strict about content that they index. If you display different content to a user than the content that Google has indexed, that will cause Google to drop the page from their index, and may affect the overall quality rating for your site in Google's index. Nobody really wants to cross them here; if you want your content indexed and displayed in search result…

True, but they could just show google the same thing they show users who are not logged in. They just choose not to.

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Post by flurpitude »

dghughes wrote: post #260

I'm not surprised since I've seen the quality of Samsung going downhill for years. Even such things as the stupid blotware Kies and Kies air instead of just allowing you to connect the phone like a USB thumbdrive. I've rambled on about Samsung phones in the comment sections of various sites for years. The last Samsung phone I bought was an S5 I still have it I skipped the S4 before that it the S3 which was not bad ex…

Meh, my experience was the opposite - S2 died quickly, S3 was slow and with bloated software, Note 4 was and still is great. But anecdotes about one or two people's experience don't prove anything.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by tomjen3 »

lmm wrote: post #41
NicoJuicy wrote: post #17

This is the second article i can't access in a short time. Please consider changing the url to the nytimes article or deleting the article on itselve. I don't think HN should contain links to paywalled sites like wsj.com

Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

Instead of us filling the thread with invite requests, could you post your email?

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by flurpitude »

Naomarik wrote: post #218
fumar wrote: post #177

As a current Note 7 user, this is news bums me out. Not because the error rate of the manufactured phones may exceed safety requirements, but its the only device (tool) that has met my needs in a long time. Digital ink functionality is something I searched for since, those early Palm (PDA) days. The Surface Pro was a great answer to that as a laptop replacement. It never crossed my mind to get a Note until now. I alw…

After owning the Note 7 every other phone in comparison seems the same: just a screen to show apps on and make calls. The s-pen is what sets this thing apart from the rest, and as a developer has helped me sharing ideas and solving problems. Would hate to give it up. I wish Apple would make a phone with an integrated stylus.

Note 4 user here. Not sure what to do when this one dies. The pen is a great feature that hugely expands the uses of the device. I hope Samsung doesn't feel the need to stop producing phones with a pen.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by eric_h »

levelist_com wrote: post #271
PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

As a person that owns both a Samsung Washer & Dryer (they just did a recall on top load washers I believe), a Samsung Refrigerator, and at one point a Samsung television, I can assure you all of their products (that I have owned or currently own) are poorly designed, and more so, poorly manufactured garbage. I will never knowingly buy a Samsung product again. I replaced the TV after it came out about their efforts to…

I'm quite happy with my Samsung TV - picture quality is great.

The remote is a terrible piece of shit, and I disabled the "Smart" TV features the moment that thing showed be a goddamn ad, but as a front end for my Apple TV/Playstation 4 it's quite good.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by macintux »

criddell wrote: post #175
Merad wrote: post #170

I am the only one who thinks this is an extraordinary step? Does this mean that they've identified the problem and believe that it's beyond repair? Or do they think that the Note 7 name has been so tarnished now that they just want to kill it? It's especially surprising because most people who have the phone seem to love it, aside from, y'know, the risk of spontaneous combustion.

I think it's because of the brand damage. When you sell millions of phones, some tiny number will always have problems. Every single time that happens, the media will jump on it for yet-another-Samsung-Note-problem story. At this point, they are probably mostly worried that the damage will spread to other Samsung properties. Some news stories are already trying to connect appliance failures.

Brand damage? 13-year-old kids are getting burned by these phones. Airplanes have been evacuated due to these phones. This is not a media overreaction.

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Post by dawnerd »

eric_h wrote: post #276
levelist_com wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a person that owns both a Samsung Washer & Dryer (they just did a recall on top load washers I believe), a Samsung Refrigerator, and at one point a Samsung television, I can assure you all of their products (that I have owned or currently own) are poorly designed, and more so, poorly manufactured garbage. I will never knowingly buy a Samsung product again. I replaced the TV after it came out about their efforts to…

I'm quite happy with my Samsung TV - picture quality is great. The remote is a terrible piece of shit, and I disabled the "Smart" TV features the moment that thing showed be a goddamn ad, but as a front end for my Apple TV/Playstation 4 it's quite good.

Except you can't fully disable ads unless they've patched it in the last 6 or so months. I had a very long back and forth with them about it and they kept denying it until finally admitting that it was impossible to disable. Worse, they were using the notification bar to advertise gamefly. Not cool. Keep in mind the TV I had was their flagship first gen 4k tv. There's no excuse for putting ads on a nearly 5k dollar tv.

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Post by Animats »

willtim wrote: post #270
kijin wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may not be the end of Samsung, but I sure hope that this will mark the end of an era in smartphone design -- an era during which everyone rushed to make the thinnest, flattest, flimsiest phone ever, durability be damned. There have been reports of ultrathin phones from several different brands bending and cracking in people's back pockets for years. Honestly I'm impressed that manufacturers lasted so long without…

This. I just don't understand the thinness obsession. I was given an iPhone by my work recently and I am amazed how impractical it is. It's slippery to hold, difficult to pick up and just incredibly fragile. I was recommended to buy a case for it ASAP. There's basically no chance it will survive a drop. Personally I think the design is awful. It's the "emperor's new clothes".

That's what's so amusing about this. The incredibly thin phones have to be put in incredibly bulky cases. A super-thin iPhone in a case is as bulky as my Cat B15 ruggedized smartphone, which will survive being run over by a truck and has a bigger battery.
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