Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone • Hacker News Board

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by sib » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:34 PM UTC

Zikes wrote: post #256

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

There was a time when people in the US died from randomly poisoned Tylenol, yet today it's the go-to OTC pain relief medicine in America.

Right, but it's pretty significant that it was Samsung who produced the exploding phones, while it was a criminal who tampered with perfectly good Tylenol pills. I'm sure that Samsung would take less of a hit if there were an individual who was attached small explosives to Galaxy Note devices.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by oldmanjay » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:39 PM UTC

gonzo41 wrote: post #96

Samsung - I want a slightly thicker phone, Square edges and a big battery that i can change out. Do this and im yours for life

Would you be willing to pay say 2x the price of the designs that people clearly prefer?

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by tromp » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:40 PM UTC

Nursie wrote: post #230

So... Slightly OT but not 100%... For those of us wanting a phablet, what are the options right now? Pixel is, IMHO, too expensive. The Note was top-end too, but at least had Wireless charging, which I like. Now it's gone. I don't 'do' iOS. What's left? Most of the other phablets have got smaller, the Moto Z looks quite good (no QI, but otherwise great). People rave about the OnePlus 3 but the screen is low-res compa…

I've been quite happy with my 7" Huawei Mediapad X1

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/tablets/MediaPadX1/index.htm

the only downside being the batter life is reduced if you let it drop to 2%.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by poshli » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:41 PM UTC

metafunctor wrote: post #88

The subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?

WSJ's reporters and servers are funded by money, not nice words on HN. I don't understand everyone's obsession with bypassing paywalls on news links. I occasionally buy paper copies of newspapers.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by efvxcgci » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:50 PM UTC

bogomipz wrote: post #244

efvxcgci wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus, if you give in and subscribe to the WSJ they go out of their way to make it difficult to unsubscribe, requiring users to call in by phone and be subjected to a sales pitch just to cancel the recurring charges. It's a very scummy retention tactic.

Is this true for a digital only subscription as well?

Yes.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by JustSomeNobody » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:51 PM UTC

M_Grey wrote: post #235

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely disagree. People love shiny and they have a short memory even though there's this wonderful thing called the internet that can remember things for them. All Samsung has to do is come out with something shiny and people will be buying it and blogging about it. People still buy Ford cars even though they made the Pinto and their SUVs used Firestone tires. People still buy Toyota without even a thought as t…

In the public imagination, cars explode. No one expects their phone to explode, especially just... randomly and out of the clear blue.

But virtually nobody knows anyone who's phone has exploded, so I don't see this impacting Samsung that much.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by adidar83 » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 6:56 PM UTC

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #132

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

I completely disagree. People love shiny and they have a short memory even though there's this wonderful thing called the internet that can remember things for them. All Samsung has to do is come out with something shiny and people will be buying it and blogging about it. People still buy Ford cars even though they made the Pinto and their SUVs used Firestone tires. People still buy Toyota without even a thought as t…

I also agree with this disagreement. Samsung is way too diversified to suffer from this setback.

I am sad because they discontinued the phone. I really like this phone, and can't wait for my next Samsung toy.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by tomjen3 » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 7:01 PM UTC

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

A creative marketing agency could totally spin that the phone was so packed with power that it couldn't work, but this new shiny thing is even better and completely safe.

Will this hurt them in the short run? Yes, but unless they die before the next phone is out and gets rave reviews from at least a subgroup, this won't matter long term - does anybody even remember antenna gate?

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by M_Grey » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 7:03 PM UTC

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #266

M_Grey wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the public imagination, cars explode. No one expects their phone to explode, especially just... randomly and out of the clear blue.

But virtually nobody knows anyone who's phone has exploded, so I don't see this impacting Samsung that much.

But virtually everyone knows that they have exploded, has been told to shut them off on flights, has older relatives asking them if their S4 is save, etc... This is not going away, especially since they've been unable to figure out what's going wrong, and have just told people to turn it off.

Besides, driving is really dangerous, but calling your girlfriend isn't supposed to leave you with full thickness burns.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by willtim » Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 7:05 PM UTC

kijin wrote: post #168

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

It may not be the end of Samsung, but I sure hope that this will mark the end of an era in smartphone design -- an era during which everyone rushed to make the thinnest, flattest, flimsiest phone ever, durability be damned. There have been reports of ultrathin phones from several different brands bending and cracking in people's back pockets for years. Honestly I'm impressed that manufacturers lasted so long without…

This. I just don't understand the thinness obsession. I was given an iPhone by my work recently and I am amazed how impractical it is. It's slippery to hold, difficult to pick up and just incredibly fragile. I was recommended to buy a case for it ASAP. There's basically no chance it will survive a drop. Personally I think the design is awful. It's the "emperor's new clothes".