I was once a fan of Mayer when she first took over Yahoo, until she led a crusade against remote workers. As a remote worker myself I can tell you this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry. A lot of tech companies (especially outside the bay area) want to emulate the cool kids like Yahoo, Google, and Apple, and even the company I work for started questioning its WFH policies. So no, I don't feel sorry for her…
Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers
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#42I was once a fan of Mayer when she first took over Yahoo, until she led a crusade against remote workers. As a remote worker myself I can tell you this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry. A lot of tech companies (especially outside the bay area) want to emulate the cool kids like Yahoo, Google, and Apple, and even the company I work for started questioning its WFH policies. So no, I don't feel sorry for her…
Dude, Yahoo stopped being a "cool kid" a decade ago. That's really messed up if your company actually thinks it should emulate Yahoo because it's a cool company.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny you should mention her. I'm 100% sure that it can't be coincidence that the only "really bad CEOs" I keep hearing about on social media are Pao, Meyers and Elizabeth Holmes. But people really don't react kindly to accusations of sexism without proof. I wonder how unlikely it is that the 90% of male CEOs in high tech are all exemplary.
You must be reading different social media then me since there are plenty examples of bad male CEOs. Isn't there a Twitter article on the main page? HP is a special case as they have had a run of awful CEOs (the SAP guy being one of the worst) and most damaging a criminal board. I think the jury is still out on Meyers. Holmes is basically a criminal. Not one has approached SCO or Enron bad. There are plenty of sucky…
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#45Anyone who was unkind to Ellen Pao should really be rethinking themselves about now. Edit: Hn thread: why is diversity so important? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12576806 Me: if diversity is not important than this lawsuit is a joke and HN should be laughing at this lawsuit.
Funny you should mention her. I'm 100% sure that it can't be coincidence that the only "really bad CEOs" I keep hearing about on social media are Pao, Meyers and Elizabeth Holmes. But people really don't react kindly to accusations of sexism without proof. I wonder how unlikely it is that the 90% of male CEOs in high tech are all exemplary.
Arguably the founders of Sun were pretty bad businessmen (but excellent engineers). Tim Cook's reign at Apple has been questionable. Eric Schmidt is remembered more for being some sort of Machiavellian New World Order type who is way too friendly with the State department. Steve Ballmer is sort of like Meyer in that he was blamed for not saving a company whose market was simply getting smaller. It's possible that you don't hear about bad male CEOs as much because male CEOs aren't notable simply for being CEOs.
I think that Meyer missed an opportunity to beat Google at privacy by taking it seriously. Yahoo was excellently situated for that. Once they're part of Verizon, though, it's too late. On the other hand, Ellen Pao's primary mistake was being both female and famous on reddit.
[1] - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/07/13/details-emerge-abou...
Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers
#46I was once a fan of Mayer when she first took over Yahoo, until she led a crusade against remote workers. As a remote worker myself I can tell you this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry. A lot of tech companies (especially outside the bay area) want to emulate the cool kids like Yahoo, Google, and Apple, and even the company I work for started questioning its WFH policies. So no, I don't feel sorry for her…
She laid out a good reason for doing it. I think the decision was justified.
Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers
#47I was once a fan of Mayer when she first took over Yahoo, until she led a crusade against remote workers. As a remote worker myself I can tell you this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry. A lot of tech companies (especially outside the bay area) want to emulate the cool kids like Yahoo, Google, and Apple, and even the company I work for started questioning its WFH policies. So no, I don't feel sorry for her…
Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers
#48I was once a fan of Mayer when she first took over Yahoo, until she led a crusade against remote workers. As a remote worker myself I can tell you this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry. A lot of tech companies (especially outside the bay area) want to emulate the cool kids like Yahoo, Google, and Apple, and even the company I work for started questioning its WFH policies. So no, I don't feel sorry for her…
She laid out a good reason for doing it. I think the decision was justified.
> In 2013, for example, Yahoo's new CEO Marissa Mayer banned employees from working at home. She made this decision after checking the server logs for the virtual private network that Yahoo employees use to remotely log in to company servers. Mayer was upset because the employees working from home didn't sign in enough throughout the day. She was, in some sense, punishing her employees for nor spending more time checking e-mail (one of the primary reasons to log in to the servers). "If you're not visibly busy," she signaled, "I'll assume you're not productive."
"Batching" email to specific times in the day is a pretty well-known productivity win, especially for people whose job it is to engage in deep work.