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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by CalRobert »

CalRobert wrote: post #381
vbezhenar wrote: post #238

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Human support is supposed to help them. What I found unacceptable is "We are banning you and we won't tell you anything about it". This pattern is extremely common. And extremely frustrating. You can't put one in jail without telling why (and right to defend). In many developed countries you can't even fire a worker without a solid reason. It should be prohibited for companies to halt service someone without providin…

I am banned from being an Amazon marketplace seller. I have no idea why. They say there is no way to learn more, and it's for life. I've never even sold anything there. My wife was banned a bit before more. She sold one textbook and fulfilled the transaction perfectly. She found out she was banned when they said they were keeping her money for 45 days, and they would be kind enough to release it to her if the buyer c…

Ugg, I meant "a bit before _me_". Not "more". too late to edit though.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by amelius »

In my opinion, if an internalized market has more than (say) 10K independent people making a profit from it, the government should step in and require it to be opened up, and follow the rules of the free market.

This should hold not only for Apple, but also Google, Uber, AirBnB, et cetera.

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Post by _nedR »

brianwawok wrote: post #283
fattire wrote: post #253

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You have other means to distribute your app w/Android, including self-distribution. It's an uphill climb to be sure, but there are apps who do that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but iOS doesn't offer that opportunity as sideloading and non-Apple markets are not possible unless you jailbreak your device

Can you name a single Android app that has even made 100k distributed via side loading? I can't.

Humble Bundle hosts mobile bundles frequently (Android only). Although they are not as successful or popular as HB's PC games bundles, they certainly bring decent level of exposure and revenue to game developers outside the play store bubble. They're only possible because of side-loading.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

prashnts wrote: post #165
chillacy wrote: post #139

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It's a lifesaver on planes where you won't have internet. If only I could download an archive of stackoverflow too, then I'd be set.

I use `devdocs.io`. It's open source and works great!

Thanks, this is pretty slick.

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Post by rubber_duck »

Certhas wrote: post #391
vbezhenar wrote: post #238

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Human support is supposed to help them. What I found unacceptable is "We are banning you and we won't tell you anything about it". This pattern is extremely common. And extremely frustrating. You can't put one in jail without telling why (and right to defend). In many developed countries you can't even fire a worker without a solid reason. It should be prohibited for companies to halt service someone without providin…

Electricity providers, water providers, road maintanance, phone systems, etc... Infrastructure everywhere is either in public hands or tightly regulated. Infrastructure provision is simply not a problem for which unregulated markets are a good solution, for fairly obvious reasons. Sooner or later the IT infrastructure companies will need to be regulated like infrastructure providers.

The reason these things are regulated is because they are fundamentally limited by and tied to land property/ownership laws and there is no way to efficiently reach a consensus without violating them.

IT infrastructure has nothing in common with this aside from ISP.

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Post by kefka »

coldtea wrote: post #380
zeveb wrote: post #148

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> You are not entitled to do whatever you feel is right on the platform of someone else. An iPhone-owner's phone is not Apple's platform: it's its owner's platform. It is not Apple's property once money has been exchanged for the phone.

> An iPhone-owner's phone is not Apple's platform: it's its owner's platform. It is not Apple's property once money has been exchanged for the phone The phone, the physical device, is yours. You can put it in the oven if you like, or crash it with a steamroller. The platform remains Apple's. In the same way that when you buy a subscription from Netflix you don't suddenly own their network and dictate terms.

And all I want to do is to run arbitrary binaries on a device I own.

Hmm. Apple prevents me from that. Seems more of a rental agreement, than outright purchase.

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Post by takno »

rubber_duck wrote: post #405
Certhas wrote: post #391

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Electricity providers, water providers, road maintanance, phone systems, etc... Infrastructure everywhere is either in public hands or tightly regulated. Infrastructure provision is simply not a problem for which unregulated markets are a good solution, for fairly obvious reasons. Sooner or later the IT infrastructure companies will need to be regulated like infrastructure providers.

The reason these things are regulated is because they are fundamentally limited by and tied to land property/ownership laws and there is no way to efficiently reach a consensus without violating them. IT infrastructure has nothing in common with this aside from ISP.

They are mainly regulated because they naturally form into monopolies, just like the large internet services.

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Post by glogla »

rubber_duck wrote: post #405
Certhas wrote: post #391

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Electricity providers, water providers, road maintanance, phone systems, etc... Infrastructure everywhere is either in public hands or tightly regulated. Infrastructure provision is simply not a problem for which unregulated markets are a good solution, for fairly obvious reasons. Sooner or later the IT infrastructure companies will need to be regulated like infrastructure providers.

The reason these things are regulated is because they are fundamentally limited by and tied to land property/ownership laws and there is no way to efficiently reach a consensus without violating them. IT infrastructure has nothing in common with this aside from ISP.

That might look the way in theory, but it is not so in practice. There will never be another Google, or another Facebook, or another Amazon - efficiency based on scale and network effect mean they are entrenched as monopolies for ever, too big to fail.

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

sametmax wrote: post #389
bambax wrote: post #367

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Society can decide what behavior is allowed and what isn't. Just because a company is a company doesn't mean it's out of reach of judicial rules. A company can't dump chemicals in any river without oversight; it could be compelled to accept an appeals process when terminating a contract with a developer.

But what apple is doing is not currently illegal. Just highly disrespectful. Now we can act as a society to make it illegal, but this won't happen.

>Now we can act as a society to make it illegal, but this won't happen.

Certainly not if everyone heeds your advice to "Accept this is what you choose and don't bitch about it". Bitching about stuff is a necessary part of the democratic process.

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