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Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Nonsense! Firefox Developer Edition [0] is the best browser for web development and it doesn't need Firebug as it has better built-in tools! Not to mention the lovely dark theme! [0]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

Do you know if there is an option to auto-reload the CSS on change? Love that in chrome.

You might want to use wepack dev server or the live reload addon. That's what I use together with Firefox (Developer Edition).

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Firefox is good. It has support for modern standards, is performant, has tracking protection built in and plenty of extensions. Google is winning because it's bundling its browser just like Microsoft used to and is aggressively advertising it on all of its web properties, which might have a reach of close to 100% of the web-using population. Firefox also has a reputation for being slow, gotten probably from people do…

Firefox can cope with hundreds of tabs just fine. Way better than Chrome can cope with a similar workload, both in terms of memory usage and UI (Chrome winds up with tabs only a few pixels wide, with no information visible!). Firefox’s reputation is because of its history: when Chrome was new it did perform really well and Firefox did have serious performance issues. Chrome has been marvellous for Firefox. The sad th…

My issue with firefox is mainly it's startup time. It's horrible. Edge and Chrome start instantly while firefox takes 20-30 seconds. Maybe its because I have pinned tabs only in firefox since its my main browser and that I have more plugins there but it's still unresponsive and feels sluggish.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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What did cause you to switch? What follows here are my observations on what are the advantages/disadvantages of the two browsers: The biggest advantage to Chrome that I can think of is it has its own implementation of Flash in it, rather than using the Flash plugin. This allows Chrome to not have another container process, unlike in Firefox which does spawn a container process for Flash, which uses a ton more CPU cyc…

> What did cause you to switch? I'm not GP, but I switched because Chrome had better dev tools. For a while, I was using Firefox for browsing and Chrome for dev, but I ended up using just Chrome. It also didn't help that Firefox dropped its 1st party browser sync (Weave) and Chrome had bookmark & history syncing natively

Firefox has had browser sync for ages and continues to have it as far as I know.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Firefox can cope with hundreds of tabs just fine. Way better than Chrome can cope with a similar workload, both in terms of memory usage and UI (Chrome winds up with tabs only a few pixels wide, with no information visible!). Firefox’s reputation is because of its history: when Chrome was new it did perform really well and Firefox did have serious performance issues. Chrome has been marvellous for Firefox. The sad th…

Hundreds? No way. It runs like crap with a few dozen tabs and I always have to restart it so it doesn't start slowing down and behaving badly.

I am a chronic tabber. Chrome can barely handle 20 tabs at a time on my machine (A T410 - nearly 5 years old). Firefox can chug along fine with more than a hundred tabs may be a 200. it starts to show problems only when the session restore file reaches 300mb or more. (Yes that is as far as I have pushed firefox.)

Firefox is much much better than Chrome. Only chrome can put it's foot in the door and sneak in anywhere due to Google peddling it on all its webapps as the best browser for optimal performance for google apps. Just the search and gmail page is enough to convert the unsuspecting population to think Chrome is better than Firefox.

How many of the common masses are actually aware that Firefox exists? How many of them would actually try out both browsers on their systems and evaluate and decide which is best?

There are still people who are swayed by endorsements by huge corporations as signals of quality. In their eyes, Google, which is their window/gateway to the internet, saying Chrome is good would just seal the deal.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Do you know if there is an option to auto-reload the CSS on change? Love that in chrome.

You might want to use wepack dev server or the live reload addon. That's what I use together with Firefox (Developer Edition).

Sadly reload changes the state of SPAs, that's why the sneaky CSS-only reload is so useful.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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I think people think Chrome is a best browser is because it performs better on Google products than any other browser. And as people are using GMail, Youtube or other, they see Chrome as the best browser.

Sorry but that is just not true, Firefox has miserable DOM performance that results in laggyness, freezes on pages that work fine with Chrome. Until the Firefox people accept that their browser sucks can they finally try to make it better. There is no sandboxing (in the works for how many years now?), their pdfjs is not as fast as the chrome native plugin, they force me to use the insecure and terribe flash plugin th…

If pages lag or freeze it might be the developers fault. I realize some are providing complex app like experiences but most web sites are just text and images artfully arranged. Making this simple thing slow requires dedicated stupidity.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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I think people think Chrome is a best browser is because it performs better on Google products than any other browser. And as people are using GMail, Youtube or other, they see Chrome as the best browser.

Actually GMail and YouTube are the only tolerable experiences using FF. Try watching random FB video, Twitch streams, etc. on a Linux FF and you'll get greeted with a nice "please download Adobe Flash" or some such nonsense. With Chrome it just works , it bundles Flash, I don't have to care which version it is, how to get it for my system, etc. I would like to use FF because the theme makes it match my Gnome theme (s…

Many distros manage to actually bundle flash which then just works out of the box. This isn't a Firefox issue its your distro.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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He stepped down himself...

At least that's the official story. Perhaps he was given a choice: resign or get fired.

Do you really think that if he would have been fired by Mozilla and then Mozilla had claimed at every corner that he resigned voluntarily, that he would have just accepted that, instead of going to the next media outlet and selling the true story there?
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