Question: In this future without Firefox, what becomes the default browser in Linux distributions? I won't claim that I know what every distro uses, but every one I've ever installed has had Firefox or some derivative of it included.
Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#172The only reason chromium is my primary browser is the developer tools (it's a pain to use Firefox for normal browsing, but Chromium for debugging.) I can only hope for chrome's devtools to be ported to firefox. (firebug is close but slow).
Nonsense! Firefox Developer Edition [0] is the best browser for web development and it doesn't need Firebug as it has better built-in tools! Not to mention the lovely dark theme! [0]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I rather have people write such texts to encourage people to switch to Firefox then have Chrome installed accidentally because they again bundled it like some crappy AntiVirus software in the installer of another program (together with the google updater service and god knows what).
One of those things I only realized recently: Google CEO Sundar Pichai's claim to fame at Google was the Google Toolbar. Under him, how can we expect Google to do anything but push pack-in bloatware? Dark patterns like prechecked bloatware install boxes aren't going anywhere under him.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#174This thread on reddit captures many of the reasons why I stopped using firefox - https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3hugul/the_future_... . Extensions are what made firefox great for me, with the constantly evolving story for extensions over the years the community around building extensions appears to have dissipated.
They're implementing WebExtensions though, which is 99% compatible with FF! There's a solution coming in that regard :)
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
My opposite viewpoint as a web developer: Chrome is faster and renders better than Firefox is pretty much every way. Safari delivers faithful color reproduction and speed. I spent 10x as much time fixing Firefox rendering issues compared to every other browser, including Microsoft Edge. Firefox has lost its edge. I do miss tree style tabs, though.
Firefox has been my primary browser since 0.93, so I am naturally biased, but here is my anecdotal position. I develop sites in Firefox and then go for compatibility checking in other browsers. Edge is normally fine. Chrome is horrible . Atrocious. Abysmal. It implements lots of new features, but they are just so regularly buggy or badly implemented. To select the example I remember the clearest (there have been many…
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact is, after releasing IE6 around the year 2000, MS dissolved the IE team. Only around 2006 a new team was formed to create IE7 (which wasn't much better). Conspiracy mixed with facts is... At the end of the nineties, Netscape was pushing to make the browser the platform, instead of the desktop. MS was quite worried about that, they had a monopoly on the desktop and used that to create a monopoly with their bro…
So it's conjecture. Going by Occam's razor, Microsoft just had no need to innovate because it had no competition.
More ontopic... IE6 was slightly better than Netscape 4, so almost everyone switched to IE6. Just as now Chrome is only slightly better than Firefox to a lot of people (not to me though). And a lot of people are switching to Chrome. If you trust Google (an advertising company) to not play the same tricks as MS did, then good luck with your Google Chrome :). Once Google has a lock on the browser market, who knows what will happen. Another lock-in, and more years of stagnation. Yes, more conspiracy :).
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#177What always strikes me about these pleas is how familiar they sound. They're reminiscent of all the things we "should" -- eat better, exercise more, lower our carbon footprint -- and I suspect they all see just about the same level of long term success. Firefox did well when their only real competitor (MS) was actively trying to make their own browser bad in order to preserve the relevance of the desktop OS and their…
This is a misleading comparison. You imply that firefox is far behind chrome in terms of general quality. Although I use chrome a lot, I also use firefox daily. And the quality difference is essentially nil(1). In many relevant ways firefox was at times better; but the details shift from release to release. I certainly isn't true that typical users would run into huge problems by using firefox. 1: on a desktop. I als…
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#178I love the Firefox extensions! (I hope they will stay for a while, using tons of quite old extensions) Extensions that have no even chrome extension: - tree style tab: nested tabs on the side of the screen - Imagus: elaborate image preview on mouse-over - FF Rocker: click right+left for history back and the other way around for forward (there is a chrome extension, but it's no fun) - grab and drag: I hold right click…
What vi-mode extension would you recommend? Vimperator always seemed worse than Vimium (on Chrome), mainly because the scrolling is jittery.
With that in working I wouldn't need smoothing much anymore and could scroll half pages without confusion.
I'm currently stuck to pentadactyl, would try vimperator again, but don't want to set it up. Would have to see how to port my pocket script and such.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#179I love the Firefox extensions! (I hope they will stay for a while, using tons of quite old extensions) Extensions that have no even chrome extension: - tree style tab: nested tabs on the side of the screen - Imagus: elaborate image preview on mouse-over - FF Rocker: click right+left for history back and the other way around for forward (there is a chrome extension, but it's no fun) - grab and drag: I hold right click…
What vi-mode extension would you recommend? Vimperator always seemed worse than Vimium (on Chrome), mainly because the scrolling is jittery.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think people think Chrome is a best browser is because it performs better on Google products than any other browser. And as people are using GMail, Youtube or other, they see Chrome as the best browser.
Sorry but that is just not true, Firefox has miserable DOM performance that results in laggyness, freezes on pages that work fine with Chrome. Until the Firefox people accept that their browser sucks can they finally try to make it better. There is no sandboxing (in the works for how many years now?), their pdfjs is not as fast as the chrome native plugin, they force me to use the insecure and terribe flash plugin th…
You mean Adobe's terrible plugin. It's a totally black box. Mozilla has nothing to do with the plugin development.