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It's good that you're satisfied, but saying that the federal government is comparable to what engineers make in Silicon Valley tells me you don't actually know what engineers make in Silicon Valley.

I suspect there are some segments that pay pretty well once pensions are accounted for.

They stopped offering the "good" pension to people in 1987.

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> you Grey Breads remember using C++ and MFC, etc. I remember submitting my BASIC program on IBM punch cards. Using a card punch machine taught one to not make typos. You youngsters with your backspace keys!

Does anyone else remember using a hard-copy terminal? It's hard to even think about how I would edit, compile, debug and run programs where everything you typed or was echoed back, including passwords, was printed out on a paper roll. Want to look at your command-history? just grab the paper and look. Of course there was no fancy vi screen-oriented editor. We had ed and liked it!

We had a teletype machine at my school in 1980 connected to the local authority mainframe. There was nearly always a queue to type your own program but you could write it out on a sheet of paper (one character per box) and get a printout of somebody who had typed it in for you. When they made a mistake your program didn't run and you had to send it again the next week.

and I'm only 50!

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> How different is age as an attribute compared to: Felons, the mentally impaired, the under-qualified, those lacking physical attributes? For that question to work you need to explain why age would disqualify somebody. A felon has committed a serious crime in the past, demonstrating they may be unsafe or untrustworthy. A mentally impaired person may not be able to think things through and solve problems that come up…

You are more likely to die soon, and if you have some unique understanding of how the company works, that would be lost.

And how is this supposed to be worse than hiring a series of youngsters, each not yet knowing how any company works, and then replace'em when they are just begining to get a clue?

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It's good that you're satisfied, but saying that the federal government is comparable to what engineers make in Silicon Valley tells me you don't actually know what engineers make in Silicon Valley.

hmmm here are some salaries for senior level engineers in San Fran ... They have a wide range... http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Senior-Ui-Ux-Designer-l-San-F... Can you make similar in the fed on the low level... Sure(though I don't make that myself) based on your negotiation skills. The higher salaries Seen you can if your a Java developer vs a web developer. Also if your on a long term hourly contract no benefits a…

not sure why i was down voted I was just saying ageism isn't found in the fed, the money can be just as good as it is in the valley and the cost of living is incredibly less.

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You can truncate your cv and not list graduation year, though name is tough.

The last time I shortlisted people for interview, HR had removed names and any other identifying information. "So, candidate 24892 looks strong." I don't know if I have unconscious biases, but this method was unlikely to make things less fair.

Yea definitely the company can do that on their end. Harder for you to do as an applicant though.

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How did they "specifically advertise for young developers" without running afoul of age discrimination laws?

Easy. Ask questions that only someone who has recently revised for exams would know. No-one enforcing this has any idea that coding a red-black tree from scratch on a whiteboard isn't something that any working programmer actually does...

You could just take your job hunting seriously and do a bit of studying. Though the details of a red-black tree are a bit much to ask anyone.

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> But if you're a bank, or a big on-line retailer, or a company that sells enterprise software - a business where you or your customers push billions of dollars of business through a software system - you definitely do care. Funny, those companies have the least reliable, performant, and maintainable code.

Probably because they outsource everything to Indian company full of fresh from school developers.

They outsource to IBM, IBM outsources to India.

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> But if you're a bank, or a big on-line retailer, or a company that sells enterprise software - a business where you or your customers push billions of dollars of business through a software system - you definitely do care. Funny, those companies have the least reliable, performant, and maintainable code.

citation needed

Visa

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I started hobby programming in 1981 and formally learned Digital Theory in 1982...I must be a digital native!

You're a digital founder.
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