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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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The main problem with Reddit is the users dishonesty to themselves. Ask a reddit user why they like reddit they'll probably mumble something about AMAs. Then visit /r/all and a completely different picture will be painted for you as the sites most popular content is a mixture of pornography, racist jokes passed off as being subversive and political ranting.

http://archive.is/uOTnv (grabbed latest thing from archive is, so like, 7 hours ago)

There is... like, less than 10% matches what you describe

and a AmA is in 10th position with near 5000 points

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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"right wing" or "far right wing". Remember we're talking about literal neo-nazis here, not just Conservatives.

That's not how it goes in practice. The fact that the people in that twitter thread endorse antifa shows that they are either ignorant of what antifa actually is (as opposed to what it claims to be), or they endorse an organisation that is more fascist than the fascists it purports to fight.

“The anti-fascists are the real fascists!” is a tired argument and it has been for more than 70 years, ever since that was said in actual Nazi Germany and the fascists proceeded to win.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"right wing" or "far right wing". Remember we're talking about literal neo-nazis here, not just Conservatives.

That's not how it goes in practice. The fact that the people in that twitter thread endorse antifa shows that they are either ignorant of what antifa actually is (as opposed to what it claims to be), or they endorse an organisation that is more fascist than the fascists it purports to fight.

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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Here is a good time to repost a paragraph about why one should not trust Reddit, by Reddit's then CEO, Yishan Wong: > I am continually astounded that people sort of trust corporations like they trust people. We can talk all day about how the current team is trustworthy and we're not in the business of screwing you, but I also have to say that you can never predict what happens. reddit could be subject to some kind of…

isn't that more "don't trust any company"? what he says applies to way more than reddit

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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> If there is a lesson in this, it is that online communities which plan to implement anti-harassment policies ought to do so from the beginning, and develop the expectation among the users that such policies exist, and will continue to exist. A few relatively popular programming languages have begun publishing official community code of conduct documents[1][2]. While initially I thought it was a bit overreaching, I…

there is an inherent trade off though. would reddit have ever become so big and popular if it had enforced a strict conduct policy from day 1? many of the early users of reddit were not necessarily the mainstream "good" users that eventually came post-digg. it can be a distraction to focus on that early on when what's most important is user adoption...

I meet cookie-cutter good people every day at office. I come online to see the interesting, the shocking, the disgusting, the entire individuality of people displayed with none of the façade necessitated by real life.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Why does Reddit have to become a media empire? The formula for doing that is pretty well-known by this point: We'll see a ban on throwaway accounts and a push for real names, then a ban on third party URL shorteners, then interruption ads, and finally some sort of paywall. Reddit is a useful piece of internet infrastructure, and I'd be pleased if it would stay that way. It doesn't need to become its own media empire…

> opt-in home pages that are tailored at specific audiences. The standard one is pretty low quality. How is that distinct from multireddits? > more detection/policing of voting rings and vote fraud in general One thing that'd help with this is better mod tooling for detecting when it's happening on a reddit you mod.

it'd probably have multireddits underneath, but multireddits don't currently play a part in onboarding

as far as detection tools for mods, https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/4tpla8/_/d5j7uo...

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Reddit's main problem is that they spent years building their user base as a site to find 'jailbait' porn (it was by far the largest search result that brought people to Reddit for a long time). That created a toxic culture, which allowed stormfront and similar groups to use it as a recruitment ground for racists. Reddit still refuses to do anything about it. The 'quarantined' a bunch of truly vile subreddits but all…

This isn't how I remember the culture years ago. I looked at reddit every now and then, but I really came over six years ago during the big Digg v4 revolt when Digg fucked up their site. At the time, I remember being really impressed how many of the comments on reddit were more personally supportive, which I rarely saw elsewhere - for example, I learned a ton from r/fitness back then. Yes, there were the more odious…

> This isn't how I remember the culture years ago

The very nature of Reddit is that each person will have different experience & memories: the truth of Reddit is that thre is no Reddit - there are only subreddits.

So, unsubscribe from most default subreddits, choose your communities and you'll be like me - having a 99% positive experience !

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Big chunk of the article gone explaining how the diversity policies have failed, but I don't see any explanation on how they would have helped the site or the community.

What if the company is failing because instead of focusing on hiring competent people (of which they have a severe lack, at least in the engineering side) they focused on having a diverse team?

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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The issue isn't really the amount of asshats. In the physical world, it's generally really unlikely that you'll get more than a couple of particularly egregious asshats with similar beliefs in the same place. When you do, it's often a news story. Online, just as people with good intentions can find each other, people with bad ones can find each other and band together. In other words, the unmoderated Internet is an a…

> Online, just as people with good intentions can find each other, people with bad ones can find each other and band together. Yup. Besides egregious asshats, it has greatly helped conspiracy theorists to get together, fringe religious groups to get together, and fringe political groups to get together. > In other words, the unmoderated Internet is an amplification device for small groups of people who might otherwis…

Maybe the big universities had those big libraries, but mine certainly didn't. Without the internet I wouldn't have had access to nearly the amount of material I did.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#260

Well seeing failures in Reddit, are almost the same failures I saw in other dotcom startups, not having a business plan that works. When Reddit was formed, it supported free speech of everyone. They didn't have a plan to earn a profit, they just wanted a better discussion board than Slashdot, Kuro5hin, Digg, Stumbleupon and others. Digg eventually had to make changes to their site that went into the paid accounts and…

>either they want controlled speech that meets Liberal guidelines and a Social Justice Agenda, to attract more people like that to provide a safe place on the Internet There's a lot of well made points to you post, so I feel bad focusing only on this one thing, but I really don't believe in creating a "safe place". It's simply not possible to provide a safe place online, while providing a platform for any meaningful…

> Reddit is already a mostly left-wing echo-camber

WTF ? My subbredits certainly are - but there is also conservative xenophobia aplenty if that is your thing !

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