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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#31
Since Alexis and Huffman returned I've seen more happen with the brand than in the several years preceding. I don't know who made their mobile app but it is damn good. I resisted at first but am now using it as my primary means for consuming content on Reddit.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#32
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just checked the data and it is not killing Imgur: Reddit image usage was 18% in the top image subreddits at beginning of June, today it is 25% that seems like a pretty significant rate-of-uptake to me - why would you say it's not killing imgur?

Here's the plot of the Imgur and Reddit pics market share on /r/pics and /r/gifs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cgoFF6njlyv1W0DQ3IF5... There is growth in Reddit Pics and decline in Imgur, but it'll be a few months before the lines intersect. A cry from the Imgur killer everyone expected.

Unless at some point in the near future you turn off the imgur spout.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#33
post #8

I didn't realize drinking on the job was a thing. I've had the odd company party with beer in the late afternoon, but that's perhaps twice a year. I'm not a teetotaler by any stretch of the imagination, but drinking at work seems counterproductive.

We have a keg at work. It's used enough to not go bad, but there's never been an issue with it. People will have a beer on a Friday or during a lunch on a really busy day. I'm not a beer drinker and bring in cider for those times.

This probably goes without saying, but alcohol isn't the problem. I imagine problem people and problem cultures often like to involve alcohol, so there's a correlation.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#34
post #20

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

I think what happens when we have truly anonymous free speech, on places such as Reddit, Twitter, and 4Chan, shows that we are nowhere as civilized as we like to think we are.

Are we more civilized when there is no anonymous free speech, and people are abusive only in semi-private situations?

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#35

I would like to see some reporting on the 10% of reddit's recent $50 million raise that will be distributed to the users. Recent changes (eg. stealth adding link tracking) and comments (eg. Huffman's, we know everything about you ) have been user hostile and making the distribution would garner some good will.

That 10% pledge died when "Reddit Coin" died. (And it likely violated SEC rules anyways)

Do you know where I can find the announcement of the death of the pledge and analysis of how it likely violated SEC rules?

I believe Y Combinator was the force behind the pledge, why would they push for and publicly announce something that they couldn't do?

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#36

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

I have a thesis that is basically identical to yours about unmanaged expectations and community being the main root of the problem that reddit/twitter/etc are facing, which is part of the reason why we started Imzy https://www.imzy.com/imzy

We got some press early on that really told an untrue narrative of what we are trying to do, but we've made a ton of progress in a few months of our private beta and our communities and platform are really beginning to come together. The link I gave above is to our company community and if anyone wants to try Imzy out I will approve your request as soon as you make it.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#37
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just checked the data and it is not killing Imgur: Reddit image usage was 18% in the top image subreddits at beginning of June, today it is 25% that seems like a pretty significant rate-of-uptake to me - why would you say it's not killing imgur?

Here's the plot of the Imgur and Reddit pics market share on /r/pics and /r/gifs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cgoFF6njlyv1W0DQ3IF5... There is growth in Reddit Pics and decline in Imgur, but it'll be a few months before the lines intersect. A cry from the Imgur killer everyone expected.

I would love to "fail" by steadily increasing growth, becoming #1 in a ~year.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#38

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

> Compounding that problem, the fact that the site was unregulated for so long caused it to attract the kind of people who need to be regulated the most. Is there any evidence that reddit has a greater fraction of asshats than the general population at large?

The issue isn't really the amount of asshats. In the physical world, it's generally really unlikely that you'll get more than a couple of particularly egregious asshats with similar beliefs in the same place. When you do, it's often a news story. Online, just as people with good intentions can find each other, people with bad ones can find each other and band together.

In other words, the unmoderated Internet is an amplification device for small groups of people who might otherwise not get a voice, and it doesn't actually matter what they're saying.

Of course, it's a lot quicker and easier to cause damage than to do anything constructive, resulting in unmoderated spaces online probably doing a lot more harm than good in the near-term. Long-term? No idea.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#39
Why the hell is Reddit trying to make their own content when the entire point of the site is for the users to create the content?

Don't make a Reddit podcast, make Reddit a podcast hosting network.

Don't make a Reddit video show, make Reddit a video hosting site.

Don't make a Reddit magazine, make Reddit a source for anybody to publish their own magazines.

Why does Reddit have writers and editors and creative directors? It's like a rock band having a position for a flower arranger.

Is this the point where Reddit has official jumped the shark? Where to next for my cat picture memes?

edit

Want to increase quality and revenue? Give a cut of advertising revenue to the mods of successful, high quality subs.

Incentivize for the behavior you want.

Provide the platform and get the users to provide, mod and benefit from the content.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#40
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the plot of the Imgur and Reddit pics market share on /r/pics and /r/gifs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cgoFF6njlyv1W0DQ3IF5... There is growth in Reddit Pics and decline in Imgur, but it'll be a few months before the lines intersect. A cry from the Imgur killer everyone expected.

I would love to "fail" by steadily increasing growth, becoming #1 in a ~year.

It's not apples-to-apples to traditional startup analogies when there is a giant UPLOAD IMAGE button on the Reddit submission page.
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