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It's only free if you have a valid Windows 7 or 8 license that you have already paid for so really, it's not free at all.
Curious what sort of Windows license hasn't already been paid for.
Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
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Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
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Why would this comment be voted down? Software that tries to mislead and nag the user into taking an action that damages their computer is malware. The only reason Microsoft doesn't forcibly apply the update to all Windows computers without permission is because that would undeniably be malware. But the net effect is the same - Windows 10 is installed without the owner's knowledge or consent. Windows 10 IS malware.
The word "most" could probably use some supporting evidence. Otherwise it doesn't contribute much to the conversation.
Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
#103Ironically, Windows 10 is probably the Microsoft OS that is going to push me full time to using Linux. Right now I use Linux for work, but home network, and laptops (except 1 Mac) all run on Windows 7/8. However the underhanded tactics that Microsoft have resorted to in order to try force me to upgrade and the fact that I lose significant (actually all) control on patching, worries about MS spyware etc means that Win…
Windows 10 may be the Windows version that gets me to switch back to Windows from Linux. The interface is gorgeous. I can run a Linux environment. It's got multiple desktops. Cannonical loves my data as much as Microsoft. Unlike Microsoft, they love sending to Amazon for sales purposes and the search engine du jure for "personalization" and to websites to download their Ubuntu "app" things. TANSTAAFL.
With Linux, there is a free lunch.
Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
#104Ironically, Windows 10 is probably the Microsoft OS that is going to push me full time to using Linux. Right now I use Linux for work, but home network, and laptops (except 1 Mac) all run on Windows 7/8. However the underhanded tactics that Microsoft have resorted to in order to try force me to upgrade and the fact that I lose significant (actually all) control on patching, worries about MS spyware etc means that Win…
Windows 10 may be the Windows version that gets me to switch back to Windows from Linux. The interface is gorgeous. I can run a Linux environment. It's got multiple desktops. Cannonical loves my data as much as Microsoft. Unlike Microsoft, they love sending to Amazon for sales purposes and the search engine du jure for "personalization" and to websites to download their Ubuntu "app" things. TANSTAAFL.
Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
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Are you sure you replied to the right comment? I can neither see false rhetoric nor any form of double standard in the parent. Otherwise, please do explain what you mean with that.
Why is my responsibility to explain how the OP is lying rather than for him to justify his lies? I would ask you to explain to me how the OP's statements are true. The only truth in the OP's original statement was regarding the Windows 10 upgrade program. Everything else is FUD.
Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would this comment be voted down? Software that tries to mislead and nag the user into taking an action that damages their computer is malware. The only reason Microsoft doesn't forcibly apply the update to all Windows computers without permission is because that would undeniably be malware. But the net effect is the same - Windows 10 is installed without the owner's knowledge or consent. Windows 10 IS malware.
Windows 10 doesn't (edit: intentionally) damage a computer. Calling it malware is ridiculous.
Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is my responsibility to explain how the OP is lying rather than for him to justify his lies? I would ask you to explain to me how the OP's statements are true. The only truth in the OP's original statement was regarding the Windows 10 upgrade program. Everything else is FUD.
FUD you say? Please explain how one can permanently or even significantly delay a security update in Windows 10 Home and Professional? While one generally wants security updates, there are time when one does not. There could be something in the new patch that clashes with some hardware combinations and a new patch could render my machine unusable. As far as privacy and data protection, here are some quotes from a rec…
The UI for granular control of updates in Windows 10 has been removed putting more in line with macOS, iOS, Android, etc. The features are still there and configurable in the registry though it's primarily intended for enterprise customers to leverage.
I think the scenario you describe where an individual actively monitors and selectively chooses which updates to install is pretty insignificant. One of the problems with Windows has been that users or software (e.g. AV, AntiMalware, etc) will disable the Windows Update Service or set it to manual and then neglect to update the system. This leaves the user vulnerable. The changes Microsoft has made are to benefit the majority and not to cater to the minority.
In Windows 10 the UI doesn't allow you to disable automatic updates, it only allows you to disable automatic reboots. If you are hell bent on disabling them however you can do it via registry changes or various tools that have been released. That being said it's generally a bad idea to do this.
> As far as privacy and data protection, here are some quotes from a recent article in pcadvisor.com:
None of your quotes are proof of spying, they're reactions to the EULA or default settings. Hell one of your quotes even says "felt". And they use such menacing terms as "data harvesting" to describe pretty routine behavior.
Re: Windows 10 a failure by Microsoft's own metric
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is my responsibility to explain how the OP is lying rather than for him to justify his lies? I would ask you to explain to me how the OP's statements are true. The only truth in the OP's original statement was regarding the Windows 10 upgrade program. Everything else is FUD.
Visiting relatives after Windows 10 forced itself upon them. Finding Cortana took liberties as it was found turned on. Flicked Cortana off, flicked half a dozen options off including the keylogger aka the helpful keystroke correction featured that nobody in their right mind would want enabled. Microsoft has irreparably damaged their image, I didn't mind their monopolist shenanigans of 90's or Linux trolling of 00's,…
Why do you naturally assume malicious intent? Is the Android Keyboard (which does the same thing) a keylogger? What about every search engine's suggested searches?
Did you know that OSX's Spotlight feature sends your queries to Bing by default? If Apple is so protective of your personal information, why on god's green earth would they choose big bad Microsoft as their default search provider for OS level search?
There's this dichotomy that exists between Microsoft and everyone else. Microsoft can do no good, and everyone else is given benefit of doubt. Google's search assistant cross references a search you made on your desktop Firefox browser with a contact in your Android phonebook and suggests a Google Now car based on it and your response is "Thanks Google!". Microsoft grants it's search assistant access to it's contacts app on your device so that if you type your friend's name in the Windows 10 search bar it can display his contact info and you lose your mind. How is that fair?