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Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

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post #83

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Isn't that basically the MO of every startup? * Offer something for free, with VC money. * Gain market share since you don't need to worry about profit. * Realise you need to make money, so start turning into the companies you stole market share from.

Just want to point out that although that may be a model for many startups, DuckDuckGo is already profitable through (non-tracking) advertising and affiliate revenue. More info: https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates Disclaimer: DDG staff

I think it's very, very reasonable to be skeptical of any claims about DDGs actual concern about privacy. Actions speak far louder than words.

Gabe made his first few million by making a classmates.com clone that was the opposite of respectful about privacy. Those actions made clear that he has no ethical or moral stance regarding privacy, and that he will happily violate privacy for profit.

Add to that the fact that he took venture funding. Venture funding aims for a maximized exit price, not a moral stance. The moral stance will disappear the moment your site gains meaningful traction. It's what Ayn Rand (one of your founder's favorte authors) would have wanted.

DDG users who care about privacy are, to be blunt, laughably gullible. Your current business is pro-privacy because:

1) the search context creates sufficient value even without the personal target; and

2) the tech is a dumb layer on top of other tech, and it can't provide personalizaton.

As such, yegg's pretending he cares about privacy... but he's just selling the limitations of his lousy tech as benefits. It's a PT Barnum move. As soon as the tech is better, the privacy will disappear.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

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post #11

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Google originally won everyone over with superior results, the rest of it came pretty organically. The underdog is always everyone's favorite until they somehow wind up on top.

> The underdog is always everyone's favorite until they somehow wind up on top. Google was everyone's favorite for a while even after becoming the market leader. And it seems the reasons to dislike google are pretty diverse (although around here I mostly hear "because they forced g+ login on youtube" or "because they killed reader". FTR my biggest annoyances with them was 1: when they killed off Google Desktop Search…

Ah, Vic Gundotra.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

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If I had to guess, because they don't own duck.com and developers have a better grip on unusual TLDs than most users.

Addendum: Whoever owns duck.com forwards it to google.com, so duck.co would be a really bad place to be as a search engine

> Whoever owns duck.com forwards

https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=duck.com

And Google owns it... how can this be legal?

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

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post #117

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I don't want to be rude, but I don't think DuckDuckGo has actually taken much market share to worry about yet, so maybe it's not following the usual startup route.

Does it matter if it's following the "usual startup route"? If it's profitable, and it hasn't compromised on it's values, then it's winning.

Maybe. It's not difficult to be profitable though. Servers are cheap. I don't think it's going to trouble Google though, which is a shame. We could do with some serious search competition.
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