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Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#101

Post by type0 »

nitrogen wrote: post #24
ausvisaissues wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different topic: Why do they use www.duck.co as their development url and www.duckduckgo.com as their search engine name? The latter is just way too long to type. Especially for casual users who has google set at their main search engine. Compare URL lengths: duckduckgo.com 14 (10+4) google.com 10 (6+4) yahoo.com 9 (5+4) yandex.ru 9 (6+3) bing.com 8 (4+4) baidu.cn 8 (5+3) I really want to like duckduckgo, but the nam…

There's ddg.gg, but I don't know if that's an official domain and it's not necessarily easier to remember.

DuckDuckGo is to long and ddg.gg url is kinda makes it disservice. It instantly gets labeled as "nerd-stuff" if you recommend it to some non-techy friend, you just know they never going to even try it.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#102

Post by jlgaddis »

chflags wrote: post #50

Why do they say "duckduckgo-owned"? It appears they are using AWS. Who really owns the server? echo 50.18.192.251 duckduckgo.com >> /etc/hosts Avoids needless DNS lookups; saves DNS logs from your footprints.

... and will break as soon as that instance is shut down.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#103

Post by jsingleton »

pttrsmrt wrote: post #100
jsingleton wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like https://startpage.com uses http://www.routit.nl

Interesting. Source? Maybe they're hosting? Both are based in the Netherlands. http://www.routit.nl/oplossingen/cloud/

Same source as before. Yes, I assume that's their hosting company.

    Enter a hostname or IP address:
    startpage.com
    
    Performing DNS lookup of startpage.com
    Complete, startpage.com = 37.0.87.7
    Performing reverse DNS lookup of 37.0.87.7
    Complete, 37.0.87.7 = rt87bb0-37-7.routit.net
    
    Complete, startpage.com = 89.146.4.146
    Performing reverse DNS lookup of 89.146.4.146
    Complete, 89.146.4.146 = rt4bb146-89-146.routit.net
    
    Complete, startpage.com = 145.131.132.81
    Performing reverse DNS lookup of 145.131.132.81
    Complete, 145.131.132.81 = rt132bb131-145-81.routit.net
    
    Pinging startpage.com 4 times
    Ping attempt #1 of 4
    Success
    26 ms
    Ping attempt #2 of 4
    Success
    27 ms
    Ping attempt #3 of 4
    Success
    26 ms
    Ping attempt #4 of 4
    Success
    28 ms
    
    Press any key to exit...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=whois+routit.net&ia=whois

    Registered to  J.H. de Baat
    Email          info@routit.nl

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#106

Post by youdontknowtho »

tagawa wrote: post #83
volatilitish wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that basically the MO of every startup? * Offer something for free, with VC money. * Gain market share since you don't need to worry about profit. * Realise you need to make money, so start turning into the companies you stole market share from.

Just want to point out that although that may be a model for many startups, DuckDuckGo is already profitable through (non-tracking) advertising and affiliate revenue. More info: https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates Disclaimer: DDG staff

That's great news, and probably needs to be more widely known.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#107

Post by deltaprotocol »

reitanqild wrote: post #84
Zikes wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google originally won everyone over with superior results, the rest of it came pretty organically. The underdog is always everyone's favorite until they somehow wind up on top.

> The underdog is always everyone's favorite until they somehow wind up on top. Google was everyone's favorite for a while even after becoming the market leader. And it seems the reasons to dislike google are pretty diverse (although around here I mostly hear "because they forced g+ login on youtube" or "because they killed reader". FTR my biggest annoyances with them was 1: when they killed off Google Desktop Search…

>> although around here I mostly hear "because they forced g+ login on youtube" or "because they killed reader"

You forgot {{insert all possible privacy concerns}}, and on that wave, total disrespect for user choices. As a very tech savvy human I still can't dodge all their malicious attempts to collect my data, imagine the non savvy human fellow.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#108

Post by SparkyMcUnicorn »

cpplinuxdude wrote: post #92

Please help me understand why DuckDuckGo decided for the query to go in the URL, as opposed to being encrypted on the client before being sent to the server as a get or a post. Most users probably have their browsing history switched on, and synced with their friendly browsing software provider anyway, totally reversing any privacy advantage a user might potentialy gain by using DuckDuckGo.

They do have an option to turn on POST instead of GET.

This is from their page on privacy ( https://duckduckgo.com/privacy ):

> Another way to prevent search leakage is by using something called a POST request, which has the effect of not showing your search in your browser, and, as a consequence, does not send it to other sites. You can turn on POST requests on our settings page, but it has its own issues. POST requests usually break browser back buttons, and they make it impossible for you to easily share your search by copying and pasting it out of your Web browser's address bar.

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#109

Post by wlesieutre »

wlesieutre wrote: post #27
ausvisaissues wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different topic: Why do they use www.duck.co as their development url and www.duckduckgo.com as their search engine name? The latter is just way too long to type. Especially for casual users who has google set at their main search engine. Compare URL lengths: duckduckgo.com 14 (10+4) google.com 10 (6+4) yahoo.com 9 (5+4) yandex.ru 9 (6+3) bing.com 8 (4+4) baidu.cn 8 (5+3) I really want to like duckduckgo, but the nam…

If I had to guess, because they don't own duck.com and developers have a better grip on unusual TLDs than most users.

Addendum: Whoever owns duck.com forwards it to google.com, so duck.co would be a really bad place to be as a search engine

Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo

#110

Post by unethical_ban »

tagawa wrote: post #83
volatilitish wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that basically the MO of every startup? * Offer something for free, with VC money. * Gain market share since you don't need to worry about profit. * Realise you need to make money, so start turning into the companies you stole market share from.

Just want to point out that although that may be a model for many startups, DuckDuckGo is already profitable through (non-tracking) advertising and affiliate revenue. More info: https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates Disclaimer: DDG staff

youdontknowtho is shadowbanned.
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