Spain Runs Out of Workers with Almost 5M Unemployed

Post by pvaldes » Sat, Jul 02, 2016, 9:57 PM UTC

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I have read a number of other articles which say essentially this as well, that essentially you aren't paid a market wage in Spain so the only people who work in Spain in technology have some alternate reason why they can't (or don't want to) leave. I find these sorts of problems intriguing from a microeconomics perspective. There was a store in a small midwest town which closed because it couldn't afford to pay its…

I'd say it is multidimensional problem. It's true there is a very high number of unskilled workers that are the ones that were left behind after the construction bubble. Their skills are in construction mainly and it's difficult for them to find a job. But the low wages in skilled job are a prebubble problem. In fact I think they are due to a "titulitis". People (by traditional family request) needs to have a univers…

Post by znq » Sat, Jul 02, 2016, 10:44 PM UTC

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There are few, although not many counter-examples. We run Mobile Jazz [1], which is an international boutique agency with headquarters in Barcelona. We're trying to treat our employees extremely fairly and have managed to gain some of the best talent not only in Spain, but also internationally. Here some of the things we do: - Pay fair salaries: 54k€ / year (before tax) for those that work full-time - We distribute t…

54k is still less than what I make working remotely for American companies...

Post by tolai » Sat, Jul 02, 2016, 10:51 PM UTC

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Yet Romanians are the second biggest minority in Spain. There are no more problems than the disgusting and systemic racism that Spain has towards any other country and hurt feelings on the other side.

Before the crisis we got the worst of Romania and Bulgaria, millions of them, literally. A big chunk of them were very problematic people; not even actual slavs, but gypsies, etc. As if Spanish gypsies weren't enough of a problem already. I remember a friend once went to Bucharest for a trip and was puzzled Romanians are whiter than us! https://blackinmadrid.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/the-romanian-... Luckily after the…

Post by ebiester » Sat, Jul 02, 2016, 11:05 PM UTC

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For a developer, no. For someone involved in non-technical delivery, I would expect they had experience delivering agile projects. (Of course, agile projects typically call them product owners instead, a subtle distinction.) I've been involved with agile projects since 2006 and I am still learning new ways of delivering software that solves the right problem, developing team cohesion, surfacing risk early, and other…

Great comment. I'll just note that anyone can sign the manifesto, I guess you meant the authors. I'll sign it now if it means I can get 200k€ ;) http://www.agilemanifesto.org/sign/signup.cgi

Post by nottoday88 » Sat, Jul 02, 2016, 11:32 PM UTC

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I think it might have to do with the poster's mother tongue. As a Spanish-speaker I'd tend to say "pagarían 20% menos" (which roughly translates to "they'd pay 20% less". Some idioms are very difficult to get rid off. I sometimes can distinguish Brazilians from Argentines just by the way they write in English.

I grew up in the US and am a native English speaker raised by native English speakers and I sometimes use the same idiom. I suspect the GP is complaining because English is not a strong language for him/her.