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Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by bemmu »

ErrantX wrote: post #124
Artlav wrote: post #114

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Don't that require making regular content? My posts are fairly random by time and quality, and most are just rants on various philosophical nonsense [0] or game design [1]. Wouldn't be fair to people who signed up for something like this camera. [0] http://orbides.org/random.php [1] http://orbides.org/randg.php

Perhaps not as a regular income; but if funding for these projects is a limitation I bet crowdfunding would bring in funds to keep these posts coming :)

Random site idea.

Could there be a version of Patreon, where not the author themself but instead the fans start the pledges. The author could choose to take the money or not, and could prove their identity by putting their bitcoin address in a tag on their website.

So we could create a project on the site say "support sound camera posts from ribbonfarm.com" and money would be gathered for it, then when a new qualifying post would be made the site owner would be contacted "hey, you have $500 waiting for you, put this meta tag in your to accept it".

This way modest authors wouldn't need to think "am I good enough for Patreon?" and people could support them. People could provide wallet addresses to which the money would be returned if not accepted.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by sinaa »

Extremely cool!

Now is the reverse (vision->sound) also possible? Perhaps using an array of laser sensors, so that we can reproduce the sounds in the environment.

Also, is it possible to turn the images/video back into sound? Could be a fun experiment!

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by kabla »

Jommi wrote: post #108
jo-m wrote: post #29

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There is a Swiss startup called Distran ( http://www.distran.ch/ ) which develops ultrasound cameras. They also have a spherical version which looks really cool and allows 360deg sight, unfortunately I cannot find anything about that one on the website anymore.

A finnish one too: http://www.nlacoustics.com/ Can someone with more expertise explain the differences between the many companies in this field?

We all have a bit of a different way of approaching the problem and our target market differs somewhat. You can use this technology for a lot of different things, not just the obvious use cases. We're still looking at a lot of applications, so the clearer product differentiation is something that will form as time goes by.

- Kai @ nlacoustics.com

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by developer2 »

kilotaras wrote: post #112
whatshisface wrote: post #109

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I'm pretty sure that would be mechanically impossible - the brain is very plastic, but touch-into-sight seems a little far for adult learning. Instead, you could expect this to feel more like acquiring a new sense - the experience reported by those who have used pager vibrators to give their body a compass[1]. [1] http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f358/ (sorry, I couldn't find a better source - but the product descrip…

People adjust to reversed image in a matter of weeks https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/nov/12/improbable... It's not so far from that

It's no surprise to me that one would adapt over time. The article you link didn't mention any long-term study. I'd be curious to know how long it would take to replace one's vision to that of vertically or horizontally mirrored vision, in full. It's one thing to walk or drive a motorcycle, it would be another thing to handle situations requiring sub-second reflexes.

Once you've managed to fully adapt to the new mapping, is it just as jarring to revert and go back to normal, or have you learned how to handle both?

Say you rotated for an entire year - or longer - on a weekly schedule between normal vision, vertically mirrored vision, and horizontally mirrored vision. Do you gain full training in all three to the point that you could transition between normal/vertical/horizontal at any time without any disorientation or readjustment period? Or can the brain really only handle one mapping at a time? This would be the ultimate question to answer.

I suspect the results would be similar to how we handle multiple languages. Your primary vision (ie: the one you learned first, or the one you have used exclusively for a decade or more) would remain the easiest to work with, while acquired alternatives may approach the "fluency" of the primary, while not being perfect.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by BuildTheRobots »

fudged71 wrote: post #118
tess0r wrote: post #110

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one of those projects is feelSpace[1] which is a belt with vibrators giving you either a new compass sense, or tells you where to go (as a navigation system). [1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/feelspace-follow-your-gut...

Thanks for the link. I have wanted one of these belts for years! But I can't believe how expensive it is.

Whilst a commercial offering is probably quite expensive, it strikes me as the sort of thing you could do quite cheaply and easily with an arduino.

I've actually been collecting the vibration motors from disposable electric toothbrushes to build my own belt; as they were designed to run form a single AA battery powering them should be easy.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by Artlav »

sinaa wrote: post #132

Extremely cool! Now is the reverse (vision->sound) also possible? Perhaps using an array of laser sensors, so that we can reproduce the sounds in the environment. Also, is it possible to turn the images/video back into sound? Could be a fun experiment!

I've seen a phone app that does this - turns the camera's video into sound. With a bit of training, deaf people can use it to "see" the surrounding.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by whamlastxmas »

bemmu wrote: post #131
ErrantX wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps not as a regular income; but if funding for these projects is a limitation I bet crowdfunding would bring in funds to keep these posts coming :)

Random site idea. Could there be a version of Patreon, where not the author themself but instead the fans start the pledges. The author could choose to take the money or not, and could prove their identity by putting their bitcoin address in a tag on their website. So we could create a project on the site say "support sound camera posts from ribbonfarm.com" and money would be gathered for it, then when a new qualifyi…

This would almost certainly not work due to how easily most sites can be hacked by experienced and motivated hackers. That website would essentially just be a bounty list for hackers. The better option would be requiring an extra DNS entry meaning the hackers would be trying to hack into a registrar which is probably a fair bit harder on average.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Post by Veratyr »

Artlav wrote: post #114
fudged71 wrote: post #84

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You seriously need to consider starting a Patreon[0] campaign. I'm sure many people would be interested to see more from you. There are individuals on there who are making significant salaries based purely on interest from the crowd. [0] https://www.patreon.com/

Don't that require making regular content? My posts are fairly random by time and quality, and most are just rants on various philosophical nonsense [0] or game design [1]. Wouldn't be fair to people who signed up for something like this camera. [0] http://orbides.org/random.php [1] http://orbides.org/randg.php

Patreon has the option of pricing by project rather than by month/week. You could make an "Artlav's Hacks" Patreon and only charge say $5/project.
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