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Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Very very cool! And it's about time someone did it! Yours is the first hobbyist project I've encountered since my own extremely crude ten-dollar version in 1981. No square array or processing, mine was a mechanical scanner-disk: eight LEDs glued in a spiral to an old vinyl record album, each with an electret microphone and and op amp. Spin the disk with a motor at about 6Hz. Wind noise, so add foam to the mics. It wo…

Wow, that's one heck of a sonar. This is the sort of images i'm after.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#112
post #95

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BrainPort sounds extremely cool. How does the brain decide to interpret them as visual input, though?

I'm pretty sure that would be mechanically impossible - the brain is very plastic, but touch-into-sight seems a little far for adult learning. Instead, you could expect this to feel more like acquiring a new sense - the experience reported by those who have used pager vibrators to give their body a compass[1]. [1] http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f358/ (sorry, I couldn't find a better source - but the product descrip…

People adjust to reversed image in a matter of weeks https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/nov/12/improbable...

It's not so far from that

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#113
post #95

Artlav, this is an incredible project! I have an idea for you. You mention that you want to use a webcam so that you can "overlay" this information on top of an image. What if you could send it directly to your brain? There is a technology called Brainport[0], which is effectively a 16x16 grid of electrodes small enough to place on your tongue. By feeding electrical impulses through these electrodes, you stimulate th…

BrainPort sounds extremely cool. How does the brain decide to interpret them as visual input, though?

A human brain is very plastic. There is an app that can turn a picture from the phone's camera into sound real-time, and after a few minutes of training you can start to "see" the picture from listening to that sound.

Fascinating stuff.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#114
post #71

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Sadly, such things don't pay the bills. (Unless i missed some sort of karma/like/wow monetization :) )

You seriously need to consider starting a Patreon[0] campaign. I'm sure many people would be interested to see more from you. There are individuals on there who are making significant salaries based purely on interest from the crowd. [0] https://www.patreon.com/

Don't that require making regular content? My posts are fairly random by time and quality, and most are just rants on various philosophical nonsense [0] or game design [1].

Wouldn't be fair to people who signed up for something like this camera.

[0] http://orbides.org/random.php

[1] http://orbides.org/randg.php

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#115
post #95

Artlav, this is an incredible project! I have an idea for you. You mention that you want to use a webcam so that you can "overlay" this information on top of an image. What if you could send it directly to your brain? There is a technology called Brainport[0], which is effectively a 16x16 grid of electrodes small enough to place on your tongue. By feeding electrical impulses through these electrodes, you stimulate th…

BrainPort sounds extremely cool. How does the brain decide to interpret them as visual input, though?

It's a process called Sensory Substitution[0]. It's technically the perception of that sense.

I understand that the rest of your brain 'trains' this pathway to occur. So because you know that there is a sound source and you can see it move in space, and you 'feel' this on your tongue as well, you are capable of correlating the two senses together and associating them with each other.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_substitution

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#116

Brilliant project! I had a similar idea several years ago, when I was in a master's program in music technology at NYU. I had classes on acoustics and concert recording that really blew my mind as I started to understand how sound behaves within spaces. The idea of a soundfield camera occurred to me, and it seemed like it could potentially demystify a lot of phenomena sound workers have to deal with largely by intuit…

Sounds rather interesting. Sadly, there is no way anyone would let me into an opera house with this thing...

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#117

A Dutch startup called Sorama has been selling this commercially for a while. It's very cool actually, they sell mostly to companies who want to make their hardware less noisy. It turns out that noisy machines are often mostly noisy because a relatively small number of parts are too flexible, not screwed on tightly enough, and so on. Track that down and you know where your low-hanging fruit is. A daredevil cam is exa…

Ah, that might be the company i heard of. Thought they only did near-field.

Yep, that looks very close to what i'm making.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#118
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that would be mechanically impossible - the brain is very plastic, but touch-into-sight seems a little far for adult learning. Instead, you could expect this to feel more like acquiring a new sense - the experience reported by those who have used pager vibrators to give their body a compass[1]. [1] http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f358/ (sorry, I couldn't find a better source - but the product descrip…

one of those projects is feelSpace[1] which is a belt with vibrators giving you either a new compass sense, or tells you where to go (as a navigation system). [1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/feelspace-follow-your-gut...

Thanks for the link. I have wanted one of these belts for years! But I can't believe how expensive it is.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#119
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that would be mechanically impossible - the brain is very plastic, but touch-into-sight seems a little far for adult learning. Instead, you could expect this to feel more like acquiring a new sense - the experience reported by those who have used pager vibrators to give their body a compass[1]. [1] http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f358/ (sorry, I couldn't find a better source - but the product descrip…

one of those projects is feelSpace[1] which is a belt with vibrators giving you either a new compass sense, or tells you where to go (as a navigation system). [1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/feelspace-follow-your-gut...

In 1996 I was prototyping a belt with piezo transducers spaced around it with each doubling as emitters and receivers for a crude ultrasonic distance, and then each would vibrate at a higher frequency the closer the object came.

Nicknamed 'batbelt' in-house.

I dropped it after looking into insurance requirements and ADA compliance.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#120
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that would be mechanically impossible - the brain is very plastic, but touch-into-sight seems a little far for adult learning. Instead, you could expect this to feel more like acquiring a new sense - the experience reported by those who have used pager vibrators to give their body a compass[1]. [1] http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f358/ (sorry, I couldn't find a better source - but the product descrip…

one of those projects is feelSpace[1] which is a belt with vibrators giving you either a new compass sense, or tells you where to go (as a navigation system). [1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/feelspace-follow-your-gut...

In 1996 I was prototyping a belt with piezo transducers spaced around it with each doubling as emitters and receivers for a crude ultrasonic distance, and then each would vibrate at a higher frequency the closer the object came.

Nicknamed 'batbelt' in-house.

I dropped it after looking into insurance requirements and ADA compliance.

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