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Re: Trump

#191
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Race can be a motivator, you know that right? Human beings are not machines with 0 bias just because they are in a position where they are supposed to have 0 bias.

Yes, it can be. And if it is a major factor in this case, then there are methods of legal recourse. But instead he says that the judge treated him unfairly due to his race. Literally racist.

Does that mean that it is "literally racist" for a non-white person to claim a white police officer, judge, etc. treated them unfairly because of their race?

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#193
Something that's becoming common (and predates trump) is to say "I don't want to get political, but issue is a matter of morals and there is no room for debate"

As things continue to polarize, the list of items that are "beyond politics" and considered too critical to avoid continues to grow. If you want to discuss politics, just discuss politics, but don't disguise it as a situation so outrageous that it somehow eclipses politics.

Any time someone acts like they truly cannot comprehend why roughly half this country wants to vote in one way or another it just comes across as histrionic and inexperienced.

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#194
post #179

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Imo, its scary because an overt racist is a viable candidate.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor." -- Bernie Sanders

Correct me if I am wrong, but your premise here looks like a meaningless semantic argument while ignoring why racism is bad to begin with.

Re: Trump

#195

Oh how I am disparaged by Sam Altmans words. Not because they are wrong, but because they seem naive. Trump is right about the problem. His solutions are a more verbose than most. I am reminded of a quote "We must not paint with pale pastels, but with bold colors" Trump is using bold colors to address change. Mexican Judge - When has it not been heard that many white judges have shown prejudice against a black person…

Illegal immigration from Mexico is around net zero. Why should we focus on illegal immigrants when there are so many major issues to solve?

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#196

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What's scary is that so many people actually want him to win. I am not sure, exactly, how that is scary. Let's take a look at the reality of our current political situation, fear mongering and demagogic arguments aside. We in the US live in a country with two parties that have, for all intents and purposes, chosen their two favorites for leaders. When we go to the polls in November we will either vote for Mrs. Clinto…

It's not the potential win in November that's scary, it's the fact that Trump won (is guaranteed to win?) the nomination. If God descended from heaven and snapped his fingers and declared, "This November, you shall decide between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton," then I wouldn't find it particularly surprising or worrying that ~50% of the electorate would support Trump. But the fact that people chose him out of a wi…

So I guess the real question is, were the other candidates actually compelling? And more compelling? If so, how were they compelling? I think it's a poor argument to say a big chunk of voters basically said "fuck it" to the whole process. What they did say was, well the other candidates are offering us anything compelling to vote for them with; Mr. Trump is. Now, again, maybe the compelling arguments Mr. Trump is giving are totally baseless, racist, ridiculous, and absurd. But, they worked for a majority of voters so far. He's playing politics, and he's winning. He reminds me of about every other politician on either side of the aisle, ever.

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#197
post #114

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You just quoted the reporter, not Trump! This was the same tactic used to claim that Trump said we should have all Muslims wear a mark in the U.S. A reported said that, then people said that Trump said it.

Trump: Jake, if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings. Tapper: But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job ... Trump: I think that's why he's doing it.

Those quotes prove my point. Trump did not say he can't do his job because of his heritage. He said he isn't doing his job, and that he thinks it's because of his heritage.

And there's nothing racist about that conclusion. People do act based on their identity and heritage, and there's nothing wrong with that. If it affects their rulings as a judge, then that's problem, and all Trump has said is that he's not getting fair rulings (subjective, but that is his POV), and that there's an obvious potential conflict of interest.

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#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's scary is that so many people actually want him to win. I am not sure, exactly, how that is scary. Let's take a look at the reality of our current political situation, fear mongering and demagogic arguments aside. We in the US live in a country with two parties that have, for all intents and purposes, chosen their two favorites for leaders. When we go to the polls in November we will either vote for Mrs. Clinto…

It's not the potential win in November that's scary, it's the fact that Trump won (is guaranteed to win?) the nomination. If God descended from heaven and snapped his fingers and declared, "This November, you shall decide between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton," then I wouldn't find it particularly surprising or worrying that ~50% of the electorate would support Trump. But the fact that people chose him out of a wi…

Who exactly were the establishment Republican candidates supposed to appeal to?

Trump didn't attract enthusiastic supporters across party lines because they were apathetic jokesters. He may sound insane to you, but to a very large "silent majority" he is the first voice of sanity in a long time.

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#199

Terrible Godwin flamebait. Not disappointed, merely amused and surprised. If you can not make a statement about a politician without invoking Hitler and dictatorship, you should really reconsider speaking up. Indirectly you are calling Trump voters Nazi's. That is pretty damaging to debate and to democracy. First calling Trump right, then portraying him as a mastermind capable of murdering millions of people, is jugg…

I don't understand this "You called me nazi-like so your arguments are invalid" argument. Clearly, in some situations the comparison is apt. Situations in which a potential leader is using the fear of the "other" to gain power is textbook Nazi and/or fascist behavior.

Re: Trump

#200
It's hard in this area not to say anything controversial.

I agree there is no plan.

Personally I believe we need to go back to first principals on the subject of governance. What does a government of the future look like? I appreciate that's a bit of an ask but my view is that the specter of civil conflict looms large over Europe, less so the United States. Since we're going to get change, we might as well have some productive alternatives in mind.

Let us not forget that we're members of the same tribe.

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