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Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by dang »

illumen wrote: post #590
dang wrote: post #589

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I'm hardly "defend[ing] such people"; I chided that account more harshly than yours. The issue is simply the rules of the site. When we ask people to follow the rules, people sometimes think that's for political reasons (i.e. we must be supporting their enemies), but isn't—it's simply that no one is allowed to call names, be uncivil, and so on, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Obviously if we're going to have…

But you didn't reply to stale2002 or ZoeZoeBee did you? Please delete my account?

It's physically impossible for us to reply to every comment that breaks the rules. Users who notice egregious cases that haven't been chided by mods are invited to alert us at hn@ycombinator.com. Obviously, though, the bad behavior of others does not excuse one's own (cf. "two wrongs don't make a right" upthread). And if you mean to infer political bias from the choice of comments I've publicly chided, you'll find that the data (https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang) sooner support the opposite bias than that one.

HN doesn't delete entire account histories. That would gut the threads that the account participated in, and the threads belong to the community. We do often delete specific comments that people have a reason to be worried about.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by [deleted] »

illumen wrote: post #555
stale2002 wrote: post #525

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The OP absolutely wants those he disagrees with to be silenced. "The people who brake the law with their hateful comments inciting violence deserve to face the consequences of the law. " AKA, if people make arguments that he disagrees with, like "immigrants are more likely to break the law", he believes those people who make those arguments should be put in jail.

That's not what I believe, and that's not the law. Stop making stuff up.

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Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by [deleted] »

illumen wrote: post #590
dang wrote: post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm hardly "defend[ing] such people"; I chided that account more harshly than yours. The issue is simply the rules of the site. When we ask people to follow the rules, people sometimes think that's for political reasons (i.e. we must be supporting their enemies), but isn't—it's simply that no one is allowed to call names, be uncivil, and so on, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Obviously if we're going to have…

But you didn't reply to stale2002 or ZoeZoeBee did you? Please delete my account?

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Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by illumen »

dang wrote: post #591
illumen wrote: post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you didn't reply to stale2002 or ZoeZoeBee did you? Please delete my account?

It's physically impossible for us to reply to every comment that breaks the rules. Users who notice egregious cases that haven't been chided by mods are invited to alert us at hn@ycombinator.com. Obviously, though, the bad behavior of others does not excuse one's own (cf. "two wrongs don't make a right" upthread). And if you mean to infer political bias from the choice of comments I've publicly chided, you'll find th…

But you do often ban accounts, move threads, and delete threads.

Please delete my account? Are you refusing to delete my personal information? I've repeatedly asked, and you've ignored me.

Please delete my account, and all information related to it. I have that right.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by dang »

illumen wrote: post #594
dang wrote: post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's physically impossible for us to reply to every comment that breaks the rules. Users who notice egregious cases that haven't been chided by mods are invited to alert us at hn@ycombinator.com. Obviously, though, the bad behavior of others does not excuse one's own (cf. "two wrongs don't make a right" upthread). And if you mean to infer political bias from the choice of comments I've publicly chided, you'll find th…

But you do often ban accounts, move threads, and delete threads. Please delete my account? Are you refusing to delete my personal information? I've repeatedly asked, and you've ignored me. Please delete my account, and all information related to it. I have that right.

Far from ignoring you, I answered that question in the comment you're replying to.

Yes, we ban accounts—usually publicly, except in case of spammers. And we do move threads, adding a comment explaining what we moved and where. We do not delete threads.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by illumen »

dang wrote: post #595
illumen wrote: post #594

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But you do often ban accounts, move threads, and delete threads. Please delete my account? Are you refusing to delete my personal information? I've repeatedly asked, and you've ignored me. Please delete my account, and all information related to it. I have that right.

Far from ignoring you, I answered that question in the comment you're replying to. Yes, we ban accounts—usually publicly, except in case of spammers. And we do move threads, adding a comment explaining what we moved and where. We do not delete threads.

Please delete my account and all personal information?

You've repeatedly ignored my requests to delete my account and personal information.

Individual comments are deleted all the time. Please delete all my comments?

I have a right to be forgotten which is enforceable by law. Since the HN servers uses European servers I have a pretty good chance of this at least on those if you don't do the right thing. This has also been enforced on a number of US companies already.

Further more, you are infringing my copyright on these comments.

The hate speech you are publishing(and have direct knowledge that it is false) is not only a criminal matter, but also a safety matter.

My next step will be to send my request for removal again once by postal letter. This is my last comment on HN, and I will not read any more replies here.

I hope you do the right thing.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by mixmastamyk »

coryfklein wrote: post #588
mixmastamyk wrote: post #401

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The parent posts this pretty regularly, and I followed up with him. Turns out if you are a US citizen it's not going to happen. Not sure why he keeps posting here as a majority of people are in the US, with no warning given. Was mildly annoyed at having my time wasted.

> if you are a US citizen it's not going to happen. May I ask why?

Countries don't offer jobs to foreigners unless they are desperate. Even when they do, there's a lot of red tape.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by [deleted] »

illumen wrote: post #596
dang wrote: post #595

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Far from ignoring you, I answered that question in the comment you're replying to. Yes, we ban accounts—usually publicly, except in case of spammers. And we do move threads, adding a comment explaining what we moved and where. We do not delete threads.

Please delete my account and all personal information? You've repeatedly ignored my requests to delete my account and personal information. Individual comments are deleted all the time. Please delete all my comments? I have a right to be forgotten which is enforceable by law. Since the HN servers uses European servers I have a pretty good chance of this at least on those if you don't do the right thing. This has also…

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Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by cplease »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #561
cplease wrote: post #508

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I'm in the snowbelt and well aware of this. Mileage (at a given city/highway mix) is still the biggest factor presuming the car is getting some minimum duty cycle. I said "mostly," not that the number of winters is nontrivial. If you only drive 5,000 miles a year, sure, but that's not typical.

Beyond using 10k/yr as a rule of thumb for average duty cycle mileage is a horrible indicator of vehicle wear. Engines are worn by cold start cycles, transmissions are worn by shifting, brakes get worn by stopping and suspension components get worn by potholes, etc. Newish used cars with ~200k on them are usually good buys because often times it's someone who used it for work (salesperson, etc.) and just ground out t…

Except I never made the claim that nominal mileage objectively indicates vehicle wear. All I'm claiming, is that mileage is the largest factor. It doesn't matter if your driving wears out a car in 300,000 miles and my driving burns out a car at 80,000 miles. Your miles are your miles and my miles are my miles.

If we somehow manage to magically share a car, it's not going to last a lot longer than if we're wearing out our own cars at our respective rates (mine faster than yours).

But you reinforce the point that the car sitting in the parking lot or garage is not simply an over-provisioned resource by reason of being idle. If your usage patterns are so different than mine it's unrealistic to expect a configuration where we would be able to share a car.

Car-sharing has many benefits, but a car is still worth more than two half-cars.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Post by dtornabene »

bbarn wrote: post #413
jordanb wrote: post #323

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As a person who's currently dealing with the market in Chicago I can say your data is out of date. Bungalows in virtually any decent north side neighborhood are more like 250-300k. The only exception is Belmont-Cragin which is so inaccessible it might as well be a suburb. That being said, yeah, Chicago real-estate is still affordable for the middle class. I think Toronto is in a bubble (or somehow experiencing severe…

As tptacek says, Jefferson Park is the bang for your buck winner in Chicago. My sister in law just bought for under 200 with a yard, and a decent 2 floor home. House next door was listed for 150 (incredibly small though), and these aren't garbage homes in a bad neighborhood over there. I'd buy there too if I wasn't planning on leaving this city in the next year or so. Housing prices are not what make me want to leave…

Jeff Park was one of the first neighborhoods I lived in Chicago, and it has proved to be one of the best. Quiet, clean, friendly.
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