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Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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The parent posts this pretty regularly, and I followed up with him. Turns out if you are a US citizen it's not going to happen. Not sure why he keeps posting here as a majority of people are in the US, with no warning given. Was mildly annoyed at having my time wasted.

> "If you are from the EU and thinking to move"

Ok, looks like he's added that new phrase. I stand corrected.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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post #367

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I currently commute 2 hours each way. It's not as bad as it sounds. If you happen to be able to afford to live close to work, consider yourself lucky.

Do you do anything in particular to make use of the time during the commute besides just concentrating on driving, listening to music, or daydreaming? I struggle with long commutes since I inevitably feel like I'm wasting the time.

As someone who did this for some time. Get out.

I, like you probably, think that it's not "too bad", but once you're away from this practice, you'll realize that you were wasting so much valuable time.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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You can get a decent house in a nice neighborhood on the north side of Chicago for around 200k.

As a person who's currently dealing with the market in Chicago I can say your data is out of date. Bungalows in virtually any decent north side neighborhood are more like 250-300k. The only exception is Belmont-Cragin which is so inaccessible it might as well be a suburb. That being said, yeah, Chicago real-estate is still affordable for the middle class. I think Toronto is in a bubble (or somehow experiencing severe…

As tptacek says, Jefferson Park is the bang for your buck winner in Chicago. My sister in law just bought for under 200 with a yard, and a decent 2 floor home. House next door was listed for 150 (incredibly small though), and these aren't garbage homes in a bad neighborhood over there.

I'd buy there too if I wasn't planning on leaving this city in the next year or so. Housing prices are not what make me want to leave here, the climate and congestion are.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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post #410

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Chicago is one of the most walkable cities in the country. Moreover, the stuff people actually want to go to --- the various bar and restaurant districts, &c --- are in the residential north side of the city, not downtown, which basically shuts down at 6PM. Almost every neighborhood in the city has a mix of freestanding single family homes, townhouses and 3-flats, and dense apartment buildings.

Are most other big cities like the loop after business hours? I'm always shocked at how deserted it is on weekends, and evenings aside from the odd theatre traffic.

Most big cities after business hours are full of life, full of people out going to bars, clubs, other events, etc.

If you go outside in the downtown of most 200k+ cities, on any normal day, you’ll find lots of people there.

On the other hand, the residential suburbs will be dead.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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post #410

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Chicago is one of the most walkable cities in the country. Moreover, the stuff people actually want to go to --- the various bar and restaurant districts, &c --- are in the residential north side of the city, not downtown, which basically shuts down at 6PM. Almost every neighborhood in the city has a mix of freestanding single family homes, townhouses and 3-flats, and dense apartment buildings.

Are most other big cities like the loop after business hours? I'm always shocked at how deserted it is on weekends, and evenings aside from the odd theatre traffic.

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Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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post #410

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Chicago is one of the most walkable cities in the country. Moreover, the stuff people actually want to go to --- the various bar and restaurant districts, &c --- are in the residential north side of the city, not downtown, which basically shuts down at 6PM. Almost every neighborhood in the city has a mix of freestanding single family homes, townhouses and 3-flats, and dense apartment buildings.

Are most other big cities like the loop after business hours? I'm always shocked at how deserted it is on weekends, and evenings aside from the odd theatre traffic.

I don't know about most, but downtown Manhattan is very similar at night.

Some places like downtown Dallas are even more empty.

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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The parent posts this pretty regularly, and I followed up with him. Turns out if you are a US citizen it's not going to happen. Not sure why he keeps posting here as a majority of people are in the US, with no warning given. Was mildly annoyed at having my time wasted.

> "If you are from the EU and thinking to move"

You are quoting from the disclaimer section. It led with:

>If you look for a coding job in Europe

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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post #298

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Same way you account for the time your car is not being driven - you consider the total cost of ownership vs benefits and your ability to afford it.

This is a bad analogy missing the point that ZeroFries was making. A car's lifespan is mostly determined by mileage. When a car is not being driven its condition and value is largely unchanged. It is not analogous to a vacant house. If you drive a car twice as much of the time it will have to be replaced nearly twice as soon.

>A car's lifespan is mostly determined by mileage.

This is far less true in regions with snow. Assuming you drive the vehicle in the winter, a non-trivial contribution to "wear and tear" on the car is rust which occurs even if the car isn't driven a lot. (Cars are far better in this respect than they used to be but rotted out fluid lines etc. is still very much a thing.)

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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post #360

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Within weekend distance of NYC?

EX: http://mls.catskill4sale.com/idx/details/homes/b253/34760/4-... 200k, 10br house ~2h from NYC depending on traffic. Basically as soon as you step past reasonable daily commutes prices really fall.

Would anyone really consider that a farmhouse, when it has only 0.68 acres of land?

Re: Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

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A two hour daily commute is like 12% of your waking hours crumpled and thrown away. That sounds like hell. Two hours is a long time! Sit around for the two hours doing nothing, you'll see.

I currently commute 2 hours each way. It's not as bad as it sounds. If you happen to be able to afford to live close to work, consider yourself lucky.

The opportunity cost of a four hour commute is nuts though. That's half a fulltime work shift!
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