Tesla will not be able to scale its manufacturing capacity

Post by savagej » Sat, May 07, 2016, 2:24 PM UTC

erk__ wrote: post #15

jblow wrote: post #9

First it was "electric cars are not viable technologically, they have no range, there is no charging infrastructure, etc." Then it was "electric cars are too expensive, they are rich peoples' toys, and mainstream consumers will never want them anyway." Now it is "Tesla will not be able to scale up to meet all the demand." The fact that EV naysayers have been forced to cycle through this spectrum of responses in less…

Teslas are still "rich peoples' toys" some places, model s cost 120000 USD for the cheapest model.

Post by Spooky23 » Sat, May 07, 2016, 2:26 PM UTC

jblow wrote: post #9

First it was "electric cars are not viable technologically, they have no range, there is no charging infrastructure, etc." Then it was "electric cars are too expensive, they are rich peoples' toys, and mainstream consumers will never want them anyway." Now it is "Tesla will not be able to scale up to meet all the demand." The fact that EV naysayers have been forced to cycle through this spectrum of responses in less…

Post by paublyrne » Sat, May 07, 2016, 2:29 PM UTC

tacos wrote: post #13

yincrash wrote: post #5

It should be clarified that this is an op-ed. The author does not cite any hard facts, and the primary argument seems to be that the author believes that only Toyota's methods are the methods that work, and because Tesla isn't doing what Toyota did, but has ambitious goals, it will fail.

Yeah yeah. But does anyone here with a history of building something more complicated than a Rails app want to bet real money that Musk will put a Dragon on Mars AND ship 500,000 Teslas in 2018? He's not exactly known for hitting his ship dates or volume targets.

Post by daughart » Sat, May 07, 2016, 2:30 PM UTC

xiphias wrote: post #12

Most silicon valley startups try to learn from the Toyota manufacturing process and improve on it. While Toyota got stuck, Tesla gets rid of the most inefficient part of manufacturing process: humans

Post by rco8786 » Sat, May 07, 2016, 2:34 PM UTC

tacos wrote: post #22

jblow wrote: post #9

First it was "electric cars are not viable technologically, they have no range, there is no charging infrastructure, etc." Then it was "electric cars are too expensive, they are rich peoples' toys, and mainstream consumers will never want them anyway." Now it is "Tesla will not be able to scale up to meet all the demand." The fact that EV naysayers have been forced to cycle through this spectrum of responses in less…

"Shipping is a feature." Imagine someone rear-ends your current gas-guzzler and the insurance company totals it. Now try and buy one of the damn things. Over the air suspension upgrades are great. So is being able to walk onto a lot and drive a car home. EDIT: "Pretty sure you can have one delivered like, next day." Love the HN optimism. As if my comment didn't imply that I just got fuckin' rear ended and tried to bu…