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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by coldtea »

taesu wrote: post #78
_kp6z wrote: post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

>What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...?

No, he's saying that he got himself out of being the prisoner of his device (time, maintainance, etc wise) to being the casual user of his device.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by merpnderp »

The point about the full web app experience is a good one. And while Android's Nexus One left me high and dry on promises of continual updates and pushed me into my iPhone 4s from which I've never come back. If iOS doesn't get full support for service workers soon, I'll have to look again at Android.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by marshray »

pteredactyl wrote: post #225
marincounty wrote: post #158

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I'm still with you father on modern vechicles. Yes--the engine light comes on, and I can read a PID trouble code on many vechicles. The fault code is not always the problem. It's just not that simple to fix a modern vechicle. I pull a generic pid of XXXX, but maybe, around 30% of the time it's just that error code. Manufacturers have scan tools that read there products very well. Much better than my Snap-on 2500mt. I…

Good post. And that's why if I ever by a car it'll be older and not require a proprietary computer sensor to maintain. That and I have a hard time with the new "smart" driving technology. I was in my friend's Subaru last week and it beeped anytime he did anything remotely out of line...

The bleeping smart driving features are off by default. If you want them, you have to specifically turn them on every time you start the car.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by thekingshorses »

bobbles wrote: post #253
danjoc wrote: post #248

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>A: Both iOS and android have fully capable web browsers, I'm not sure what's missing here ? Specifically he mentions his WebRTC video streaming app "just works" on Android Chrome and Firefox. http://caniuse.com/stream According to that, it does not work on iOS Safari. Not any version. Ever. Apple only allows Safari on iOS. Therefore, any application that would like to do streaming will have to be native on iOS. Will…

> Apple only allows Safari on iOS Blatantly false? https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/chrome-web-browser-by-google...

Not at all.

There is only one rendering engine on iOS. Apple TOS prohibits all other rendering engines. Chrome uses Safari/webkit rendering engine to render the page.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by coldtea »

harshreality wrote: post #237
lake99 wrote: post #185

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> It must either be maintained or treated as disposable. While I agree with this, I understand where Swizec's comment is coming from. I have a few business acquaintances who have been automotive engineers for 30-40 years now. They have an excellent idea of how their cars work. And yet, they rue that earlier, they could open any broken car and get it to run. Now, there's not much they can do to fix their own cars. Pre…

> Pretty much all they can do when they see a blinking light is take the car to a mechanic. Why? Don't they have OBD-2 readers?

>Why? Don't they have OBD-2 readers?

What if they have? It's not like they'd bother to (a) decipher them, (b) fix the issue themselves.

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Post by selectodude »

stcredzero wrote: post #119
Swizec wrote: post #102

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> Cars also followed this pattern, come to think of it. I remember my dad complaining all through my youth about how the more modern that cars get, the less serviceable you are. That in new cars you need special computers just to tell them that yes, you did fix the problem and the car can stop complaining now. 10 years later ... man, if I have to even think about opening the bonnet and poking at something, I assume t…

Maintainability is the feature of unreliable equipment. Not necessarily. Modern airliners are highly reliable, so long as you follow the maintenance schedule. Disposable equipment is a feature of markets driving costs down. It's a sign of commoditization and convenience+short-term reliability winning over long term reliability.

Modern airliners are highly redundant. Stuff breaks on them constantly though.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by jan_g »

BuckRogers wrote: post #173
babuskov wrote: post #148

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Don't buy a Nexus. I have and it's a huge disappointment. I had a perfect Nexus 10 device running KitKat. And then it keeps nagging to upgrade to Lollipop, so I did. Ever since that, it runs every application slow as hell. If you allow the battery to run out, prepare for pain. Once you fill up the battery and it restarts it will start "optimizing" all installed applications. I have about 80 applications and this take…

Nexus devices have pretty much proven out to be that way. I was going to move to a Nexus before abandoning Android (after about 7 years of using various phones) but they cut off updates way too early. My friend has one and overall I was just not pleased with it. Build quality as well. I ran Cyanogenmod on my phones usually and helped a lot but I'm still happier with my iPhone. I ended up moving to an iPhone 5S and I…

Well, I have nexus 4 since 2012 and have been using to this day. I just might use it for another year (unless the new Nexus phones this autumn really impress me). Some of my relatives still use Samsung Galaxy S3. It is possible to use an Android phone for more than a year. I have no clue why you went through them so fast. 4 phones in 5 years? So you upgraded nearly every year. Why?

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by jamisteven »

jamisteven wrote: post #260

I for one could never go back to Android. iOS is just such a better user experience, much more fluid. Android feels like Cisco Voice's product lineup, all pieced together. fragmented applications and processes that dont work side-by-side with eachother. The other reason, which is huge to me, is the hardware. I am huge on how things feel in the hand and in my opinion apple's hardware is just far superior to anything o…

Also worth mentioning, I think the design of the hardware on the new Iphone6 are a massive screwup. For instance how rounded the edges are, they should have a curvature, but not as drastic as it is currently. And the protruding lens from the back of the phone, jobs is surely rolling in his grave over that one.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by coldtea »

Grishnakh wrote: post #151
Roritharr wrote: post #138

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>Maintainability is the feature of unreliable equipment. I want to see a two hour debate on that by top engineers from several industries because that seems to be one of the big questions of our time in regards to product development.

If you find an engineer willing to argue in favor of non-maintainable equipment, he's not a true engineer, but some failed engineer who's moved over to management and is more interested in profitability than in users having a quality product that allows them to keep their TCO low by being able to maintain it themselves (or by an independent professional) and keep it for a long time instead of throwing it away early.…

>If you find an engineer willing to argue in favor of non-maintainable equipment, he's not a true engineer

And probably not a true Scotchman either.

I mean, obviously only a failed engineer would ever propose not maintainable products -- everybody should use old maintainable razors for example, and not (recyclable) disposable ones. /s

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by outside1234 »

bobbles wrote: post #253
danjoc wrote: post #248

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>A: Both iOS and android have fully capable web browsers, I'm not sure what's missing here ? Specifically he mentions his WebRTC video streaming app "just works" on Android Chrome and Firefox. http://caniuse.com/stream According to that, it does not work on iOS Safari. Not any version. Ever. Apple only allows Safari on iOS. Therefore, any application that would like to do streaming will have to be native on iOS. Will…

> Apple only allows Safari on iOS Blatantly false? https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/chrome-web-browser-by-google...

Chrome is just framing webkit. Its still "safari" under the covers.
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