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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by 627467 »

_kp6z wrote: post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

Likewise, I was also tired by freedom of android and it was part of the reason why I "moved" to iPhone 2 months ago.

I don't consider my action as switching as I'll probably keep switching to both my windows phone and xperia every couple of months.

The main reason I got myself an iPhone: there are still plenty of apps launching iOS only or first.

I also feel that both platforms have now matured for the past year and it doesn't really matter what I use.

I got to complain about iOS (lack) of a system-wide filesystem and locked-down file-sharing, though.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by naibafo »

mostafaberg wrote: post #152

>I don’t know about you, but the idea of having a fully capable web browser in my pocket was a huge part of the appeal. A: Both iOS and android have fully capable web browsers, I'm not sure what's missing here ? >I’m talking about stuff that QA should have caught, stuff that if anybody at Apple was actually building ? apps this way would have noticed before they released. A: They do pass QA, that's why features are r…

>Both iOS and android have fully capable web browsers, I'm not sure what's missing here ?

I think at that point he was referring to the initial appeal of the iphone, when th efirst one was released. there was no Android and no comparable device existent at the time.

>Thank god apple no longer allows that, how do you expect a tiny screen to have popups and switch web browser views when you click links ? this is a very bad UX.

What kind of phone are you using? most things got screens so big that they don't fit into my pocket anymore.

>I'm not here to judge your decisions or why you did it that way, but IMHO a chat product doesn't really belong in a "web browser"

Rocket.chat does exactly that and it is fantastic. Other webapps as well. The key feature being that you can chat on any browser, and using for example electron (the engine based on chrome, also used by the atom editor) you can easily build apps for every platform. And if you add features, they are added everywhere at the same time without a problem

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by geostyx »

krzrak wrote: post #170

Sidenote: I checked the Google's Project Fi - damn, it's expensive. For $20/month you get unlimited calls and texts, but you have to pay extra $10 for every 1GB of data. Here in Poland for $10 I get the same unlimited calls and texts plus 4GB of LTE included (and then you're limited to 1 Mbps - but you can take the $13 plan and get unlimited GBs too).

Where I live, Fi is great. I'm on Wifi and only have to pay for the data I use. With AT&T it'd be $75+tax for calls/texts+5GB of data, and $15/GB if I go over. Where Fi would be $70+tax for 5GB data, and less if I use less data. US get's screwed when it comes to phone plans :/

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by jethro_tell »

lake99 wrote: post #185
dhd415 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is absolutely not true of equipment with moving parts. It must either be maintained or treated as disposable. One of the hallmarks of commercial-grade equipment is its ease of maintenance and repair. You might not find it fun, but professionals who rely on that equipment for their livelihood understand the long-term TCO for well-maintained commercial-grade equipment vs. disposable consumer-grade equipment. Wheth…

> It must either be maintained or treated as disposable. While I agree with this, I understand where Swizec's comment is coming from. I have a few business acquaintances who have been automotive engineers for 30-40 years now. They have an excellent idea of how their cars work. And yet, they rue that earlier, they could open any broken car and get it to run. Now, there's not much they can do to fix their own cars. Pre…

Right but a service interval now is about the same as an engine life from an older car.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by pteredactyl »

marincounty wrote: post #158
Swizec wrote: post #102

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> Cars also followed this pattern, come to think of it. I remember my dad complaining all through my youth about how the more modern that cars get, the less serviceable you are. That in new cars you need special computers just to tell them that yes, you did fix the problem and the car can stop complaining now. 10 years later ... man, if I have to even think about opening the bonnet and poking at something, I assume t…

I'm still with you father on modern vechicles. Yes--the engine light comes on, and I can read a PID trouble code on many vechicles. The fault code is not always the problem. It's just not that simple to fix a modern vechicle. I pull a generic pid of XXXX, but maybe, around 30% of the time it's just that error code. Manufacturers have scan tools that read there products very well. Much better than my Snap-on 2500mt. I…

Good post. And that's why if I ever by a car it'll be older and not require a proprietary computer sensor to maintain.

That and I have a hard time with the new "smart" driving technology. I was in my friend's Subaru last week and it beeped anytime he did anything remotely out of line...

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by criddell »

billyhoffman wrote: post #215
rdtsc wrote: post #196

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I got a cheap-o Moto G for $170 3 years ago and love that thing. It is small 4" only, got reasonable updates (up to 5.1 now). It is simple to use. Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead. Never felt the need to tweak hardware, or run Cyanogen and others. Once I wanted more memory for my music. But then deleted some of the music I didn't want and was fine. Best part if I sit on i…

> Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead Why? Apple makes money selling you hardware. Google makes money selling you to advertisers. I'm not comfortable with any company figuratively "owning" my life, but if I have to choose, the one that isn't built on scummy ads will get my money every single time.

> Google makes money selling you to advertisers.

That's a little misleading. Google makes money showing you ads. It's not like I can call up Google and buy billyhoffman's data.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

S_A_P wrote: post #202

Im not sure what it is about articles like these that bother me so much. Is this guy some hacker hero that I should know? I dont care what the platform is, and this is nothing to do with iOS vs Android. I really cannot stand this "why I quit x" type of blog post. Is there a reason this guys opinion matters more than anyone elses? I know I could just ignore articles like this, but it does happen to be staring me in th…

I don't think there's anything wrong with the article; it's a personal blog and switching mobile platforms is a pretty significant change for most people. I'd be more surprised if someone with a personal blog _didn't_ write about it.

That said, I don't see why it hit the frontpage of HN. It doesn't seem to add anything of benefit discussion-wise or show anything new in my opionion

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by babatong »

gramakri wrote: post #154
_kp6z wrote: post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

Linux user chiming in. This reminds of the people who complain about running Linux :-) When they run linux, they start tweaking all sorts of things: trying to run wayland master or run Arch (which is a great distro if you know what you are doing). And more often than not, they come out frustrated. Then the proceed to claim how awesome Mac is since everything just "works". So yeah, I totally get what you are saying :-…

On the other hand: Install Arch, do configuration once, keep installing updates but otherwise leave it.

Yes that works these days. 2 yrs and running, with minimal tinkering. Can't do that on Android (it would require you to never install an update).

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by sethd »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #214
sethd wrote: post #157

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Clean as it gets? That must not be a very high bar. I bought a Nexus 7 once and it came with an HP Print services app that could not be removed. I would be willing to bet that would be classified as crapware by most users. This is the main reason I stuck with iOS, even the the "pure" Android experience the Nexus line is supposed to offer is tainted.

You mean like all the Apple apps you can't remove on iPhones? The difference is that on your Nexus 7, you can disable the HP Print Driver, so you never see it, while on your iPhone, those Apple apps are going to keep taking space on your home screen and continue to waste battery and data on updates.

That is true to an extent but the key difference is that on iOS they are Apple apps, not third party.

We you buy a device that comes with third party apps that are not removable it feels like you just paid for an advertisement.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by petercooper »

Exuma wrote: post #191

I hate any title that begins with why. Seriously, no one cares. People have opinions. Even seeing 'why' makes certain I will not read your article. Let me guess the following without even reading... * several paragraphs of whining about things that are just personal preference. * making broad/generalized wide sweeping statements and stating them as fact * tons of rhetorical questions followed by over simplified answe…

Seriously, no one cares.

Except there are hundreds of comments, upvotes, discussions on Twitter, etc.

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