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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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For me "Continuity" [1] (ie phone call on computer if I can't find my iphone) is the killer feature for why I stick with Apple.

I know there are is something sort of like it for Android but someone showed it to me and it didn't really work.

[1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? Actually, this is a pattern that many products follow, as they evolve from a newly tinkered thing pioneered by enthusiasts to a mature consumer device. There is much more "freedom" in 80's and 90's audio equipment. (And markedly higher build quality. Bargain stuff I bought as a teenager is now lauded on ebay as t…

I don't understand why this is seen as required. A Nexus phone if very modular and easy to use.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? That's an incredibly hyperbolic way to spin their choice. No one's in prison here. A choice was made based on desired functionality and features. And they paid for that choice out of their own free will. They've chosen 'the jail of a simple interface' the same way someone who gets tired of working on a classic ca…

I am not generalizing here. I am solely talking about kev009's decision in moving. Read his comment, his motivation to move is because he could not resist doing things that resulted him with a bricked device.

The way his comment read to me is he felt compelled to tinker because of flaws in the device like bad firmware or poor design that didn't seem to work well for him.

So he switched to a device that worked well enough so he did not feel that compulsion. After all, he could equally choose to jail break his iOS device and tinker with it. But there's no reason (for him) to do so.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

Linux user chiming in. This reminds of the people who complain about running Linux :-) When they run linux, they start tweaking all sorts of things: trying to run wayland master or run Arch (which is a great distro if you know what you are doing). And more often than not, they come out frustrated. Then the proceed to claim how awesome Mac is since everything just "works". So yeah, I totally get what you are saying :-…

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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> Cars also followed this pattern, come to think of it. I remember my dad complaining all through my youth about how the more modern that cars get, the less serviceable you are. That in new cars you need special computers just to tell them that yes, you did fix the problem and the car can stop complaining now. 10 years later ... man, if I have to even think about opening the bonnet and poking at something, I assume t…

> Maintainability is the feature of unreliable equipment. Not quite. The whole purpose of maintenance is to increase the longevity of a product by making small, cheap, tweaks to complex parts that can fail due to wear and tear. Everything lasts longer if you maintain it. A good knife, a high performance vehicle, a good pair of shoes, a couch, etc ... I don't know of any product that is "as good as new" after years of…

You don't maintain CPU's. 1,000,000,000+ parts and it just works.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Wow. I'm a long time Android user and probably pay more attention than most, and I had no idea web apps had gotten quite this nice. Currently the only web app / web shortcut I have installed is the HackerWeb app[0], which is nice but clearly not taking advantage of all of the functionality it could. I "installed" Flipkart Lite and the Voice Memos demo app to see the state of the world. Clearly it's possible to build…

Hi! Creator of HackerWeb here, just wondering what kind of additional functionality that you're expecting?

Only one for me: get the previous icon back! I've really tried to like the new one but I still miss your previous icon.

Joke aside, HackerWeb is an awesome example of a webapp done right. It's the only web app on my home screen, and my favorite Hacker news reader on mobile, beating any native app I've tried. Awesome job! Do you have any feedback about issues your encounter for the development? I'm thinking about iOS updates, responsive design with iPad etc... ?

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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>I don’t know about you, but the idea of having a fully capable web browser in my pocket was a huge part of the appeal. A: Both iOS and android have fully capable web browsers, I'm not sure what's missing here ? >I’m talking about stuff that QA should have caught, stuff that if anybody at Apple was actually building ? apps this way would have noticed before they released. A: They do pass QA, that's why features are r…

>A: Both iOS and android have fully capable web browsers, I'm not sure what's missing here ?

Specifically he mentions his WebRTC video streaming app "just works" on Android Chrome and Firefox.

http://caniuse.com/stream

According to that, it does not work on iOS Safari. Not any version. Ever. Apple only allows Safari on iOS. Therefore, any application that would like to do streaming will have to be native on iOS. Will have to pay Apple a 30% tax. Will have to live with Apple's approval and release schedules.

Apple has allowed Safari to stagnate in significant areas that would permit web apps to compete with native apps. This isn't another iOS vs Android flame war. It's more an indictment of Apple's development priorities on the mobile browser.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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I'm a Java guy, open source advocate, I love to have "power user" features and I was an android guy since android came out. I recently made a move to iOS (iPhone 6), and I'm not looking back.

It has much less features, it's a walled garden and all, I have to learn a new language (or two) to be able to develop apps for it (And pay $100), but the reason I like it so much is that it simply works.

Not just the software side, my android devices always had more issues, my Galaxy S III spent 3 times being fixed at Samsung for different reasons, so far with the iPhone I had no software or hardware issues.

And when my wife had battery issues with her iPhone 5c, instead of taking it for fixing they just gave her a new one on the spot and apologized for the inconvenience.

Simple, do-one-thing and do it right devices, that simply work.

This is a classic "do more with less", less features, nothing too exciting, but the little they have simply works.

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