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Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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The spiritual community believes that fluorinated water is toxic and damaging to the brain, causing calcification to the pineal gland (the third eye, source of DMT, the spirit molecule), suppressing the innate psychic abilities and spiritual advancement of the masses. Believe it or not, this is a tremendously large portion of the population.

I find it fascinating how many medical "problems" we (Western medicine) have that are perceived differently by other cultures and faiths. I do believe what you say. Presumably Lithium deficiency is something which does not serve ones ability to contribute to our modern economy as much and therefore is seen as being a negative.

The reason is that those other cultures seem to have lots less of these illnesses. For schizophrenia, I can give some explanations. I believe that it's less common around the equator. Some link that to vitamin D levels, which are way too low in Europe and the US, even if you live in Florida. There may be other reasons, but it's worth noting.

Another big problem is stress, caused by competitiveness in the western world. When you have a mental illness, you can't compete, and that alone is another stress factor. (Some people will perform better, but by far the most will not.) In a low stress low competitive environment, if you can't deliver, don't have a high performance job, it's not that bad. You're one of the many, just one with a few quirks. You hear voices, so what. I guess if it's not that strange to hear voices, you don't have to hide it, and stress goes down, resulting in less voices, etc.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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> Sleep is really important. so true. remember it's cumulative, too, so you can't miss a bunch of sleep, sleep 8hrs one night and then be alright. >This can happen to anyone, even you. not as concerned a/b this, but i s'p so. >Don't date the crazy [person]! totally date the person you feel a connection with, and don't worry a/b labeling them, yourself, or anyone else w/ such a gross, pejorative label as "crazy". do r…

I'm using the humorous/endearing form of crazy :)

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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He is lucky. All of you without mental problems are quite lucky.

Kenneth, if you are reading this: I feel you man.

I had a similar experience to you. Similar fleeting views... without a crazy chick. I was the crazy one. What I did not say so far is that I too am lucky. My psychiatrist said that I was in the 1% of the 1% (I am not sure of the percentages). Those who recover among those who suffer from schizophrenia. Now, 4 years later, it seems that I made a full recovery. Yet I lost 2 years of my life to it. Two years of my life where I did not take medication. You are older than me, you accomplished so much more. I still have to get my C.S. degree. I am in my last semester. I now somewhat look up to you. Before reading this article, I had no idea of your existence. Now I found an inspiration I can relate to. Thank you for sharing.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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post #150

> Sleep is really important. so true. remember it's cumulative, too, so you can't miss a bunch of sleep, sleep 8hrs one night and then be alright. >This can happen to anyone, even you. not as concerned a/b this, but i s'p so. >Don't date the crazy [person]! totally date the person you feel a connection with, and don't worry a/b labeling them, yourself, or anyone else w/ such a gross, pejorative label as "crazy". do r…

Calling sleep cumulative is slightly dangerous, you can't recover lost sleep or stock up on it. But Sleep deprivation and its adverse effects could be describe as cumulative, with a slow rebound.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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I wonder if I'm going through a bit of a manic state right now. I've just had surgery, had to take a relatively large amount of of oxycontene to deal with the severe pain, I may consider that I can change things in an organization going through turmoil (though I really can't), I'm trying to fix heaps of bugs in an important code base, but sleeping and having weird dreams like believing that Rolf Harris is my relative (bloody disturbing) and waking up feeling disturbed, but in pain.

Whatever it is, it's horrible. I'm sorry the author went through worse than this!

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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I find the conclusion of 'this can happen to anyone' to be so delusional, bordering on sad.

A guy believes in a bunch of non-sense, spends a year reading up on it and taking it seriously, dates a quack with whom he screws with his mind by taking dangerous substances and doing 'spiritual practices' and finally goes off the rails...

His conclusion? Coulda happened to anyone! No Kenneth, it usually happens to people who lack self-awareness and believe in healing crystals.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also suspect that this is the same person mentioned here: http://www.kennethreitz.org/essays/purging-the-unexpected-ne... For many guys, "crazy chick" is the only language they have to describe an abusive relationship. It's not the most helpful phrase, so it's best replaced with a clearer one.

It is the same person, but I wasn't referencing her in that manner here. Just saying "that loopy/nuts self-described yogini-shaman-spinner-of-bhakti here to raise the frequencies of the earth through x y z".

I am so sorry this happened to you. I have lived with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder, or at least borderline narcissistic personality disorder and it almost destroyed the dynamics of our share house.

That person has since got help. I've also cut them off, though I still communicate with them. They've asked for forgiveness, which I've given. But I don't have the strength in my current situation to engage with them in more than superficial ways.

Just be thankful you didn't encounter a psychopath - I believe there is a big overlap I the two conditions, it a psychopath is far, far more frightening and even more destructive.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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I find the conclusion of 'this can happen to anyone' to be so delusional, bordering on sad. A guy believes in a bunch of non-sense, spends a year reading up on it and taking it seriously, dates a quack with whom he screws with his mind by taking dangerous substances and doing 'spiritual practices' and finally goes off the rails... His conclusion? Coulda happened to anyone! No Kenneth, it usually happens to people who…

This post mentions nothing of any substances.

And yes, it could happen to anyone. My solipsist philosophical interests were intellectually sound, and far from non-sense. Mania, however, started to slowly but drastically modify my mental model of the world, and a snowball effect occurred.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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I find the conclusion of 'this can happen to anyone' to be so delusional, bordering on sad. A guy believes in a bunch of non-sense, spends a year reading up on it and taking it seriously, dates a quack with whom he screws with his mind by taking dangerous substances and doing 'spiritual practices' and finally goes off the rails... His conclusion? Coulda happened to anyone! No Kenneth, it usually happens to people who…

This post mentions nothing of any substances. And yes, it could happen to anyone. My solipsist philosophical interests were intellectually sound, and far from non-sense. Mania, however, started to slowly but drastically modify my mental model of the world, and a snowball effect occurred.

You're right, there was no direct mention of substances.

Can you with complete honesty say you did not engage in any substance use? The fact that you went with 'post did not mention' as opposed to 'I did not use substances' says it all doesn't it?

Furthermore:

"Around the same time, right after having gone to my first Kundalini Yoga class, I ended up meeting (and falling in love with) a mesmerizing crazy chick that guided me off-the-deep-end with this type of thinking: numerology, synchronicity, manifestation, the mayan calendar, tarot, crystals, &c."

Tarot and crystals. Intellectually sound?

Ok then...

I don't mean to be on the offensive but you don't seem to wish to be honest about the entire picture and end up concluding 'coulda been anyone', which's simply not true.

Claims about the nature of losing your grasp of reality to the extent that you have need to have some serious backing. You seem to be engaging in self-rationalization rather than owning up to having made some mistakes and being lucky for regaining your faculties.

This should be a cautionary tale - not a 'hey, cool story bro', I sincerely hope you can see that.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The statement that 'Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (the main causes of psychosis) are genetic, not caused by "spiritual crisis"' is not backed by the results of the paper.

Yes it is. That's what heritable means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability

For 59%. Did you read that?
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