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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The paper that I cited is just one of dozens if not hundreds of studies on the heritability of the diseases. The evidence is overwhelming. Anecdotally, almost everyone I know with serious mental illness has at least one family member who does too.

The statement that 'Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (the main causes of psychosis) are genetic, not caused by "spiritual crisis"' is not backed by the results of the paper.

Yes it is. That's what heritable means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability

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post #114

This story struck a nerve because (in hindsight) I saw the same thing happening to my brother when he was about 19. He was suddenly interested in astrology, reiki, "tachyon energy disks", epiphanies, angels and demons, the vibrations of the universe. At the time I thought it was a phase. My mother was always talking (tongue-in-cheek?) about her "parking angel" and burning incense, so I thought he had just picked up t…

This is an interesting read on the difference of views between the Western and African views of 'mental illness' from an African (Witch) Doctor after visiting some western mental hospitals: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/shaman-sees-mental-hospital/ tl;dr: Most of what we view as mental illness they view as the birth or awakening of a 'healer' and should be treated that way for proper acceptance of the person…

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Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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post #114

This story struck a nerve because (in hindsight) I saw the same thing happening to my brother when he was about 19. He was suddenly interested in astrology, reiki, "tachyon energy disks", epiphanies, angels and demons, the vibrations of the universe. At the time I thought it was a phase. My mother was always talking (tongue-in-cheek?) about her "parking angel" and burning incense, so I thought he had just picked up t…

This is an interesting read on the difference of views between the Western and African views of 'mental illness' from an African (Witch) Doctor after visiting some western mental hospitals: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/shaman-sees-mental-hospital/ tl;dr: Most of what we view as mental illness they view as the birth or awakening of a 'healer' and should be treated that way for proper acceptance of the person…

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Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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post #114

This story struck a nerve because (in hindsight) I saw the same thing happening to my brother when he was about 19. He was suddenly interested in astrology, reiki, "tachyon energy disks", epiphanies, angels and demons, the vibrations of the universe. At the time I thought it was a phase. My mother was always talking (tongue-in-cheek?) about her "parking angel" and burning incense, so I thought he had just picked up t…

This is an interesting read on the difference of views between the Western and African views of 'mental illness' from an African (Witch) Doctor after visiting some western mental hospitals: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/shaman-sees-mental-hospital/ tl;dr: Most of what we view as mental illness they view as the birth or awakening of a 'healer' and should be treated that way for proper acceptance of the person…

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Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that link, you now both know it. You, however, choose not to believe it.

I do believe in the facts reported by that link (although I don't blame people who don't, scientists in general are not trustworthy). I didn't say that.

"scientists in general are not trustworthy"

That's quite a claim.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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post #114

This story struck a nerve because (in hindsight) I saw the same thing happening to my brother when he was about 19. He was suddenly interested in astrology, reiki, "tachyon energy disks", epiphanies, angels and demons, the vibrations of the universe. At the time I thought it was a phase. My mother was always talking (tongue-in-cheek?) about her "parking angel" and burning incense, so I thought he had just picked up t…

This is an interesting read on the difference of views between the Western and African views of 'mental illness' from an African (Witch) Doctor after visiting some western mental hospitals: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/shaman-sees-mental-hospital/ tl;dr: Most of what we view as mental illness they view as the birth or awakening of a 'healer' and should be treated that way for proper acceptance of the person…

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I am saddened that after reading stories like this one, people remain skeptical of fortifying water with Lithium. A study from the 90s [1] found that rates of violent crime and suicide was much lower in Texas counties with naturally occuring Lithium in their water, as opposed to demographically identical ones with less. Lithium is an element that is implicated in Bipolar Disorder and appears to affect critical brain…

I upvoted your post not because I agree with it --- I think lithum in particular is a terrible idea and will reduce human potential --- but because large-scale societal engineering efforts in general are interesting, and we're too reluctant to even entertain the idea of using them due to the concomitant "ick factor" involved.

Thanks. I have read a great deal about human biology and come to understand that there are systems that reliably stop working across such a material percentage of the populationt that something like water fortification of the elements in question could have immense, permanent, positive impact on the residents. And we could likely find a city in the world with concentrations at that level to regress the data and find any lurking downsides. Since Lithium is already in so many water and food sources, and can be clinically significant at dosages of <1000x the pharmaceutical drug, it seemed like a good place to start!

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

#138
You're not alone: http://baus.net/im-bipolar

It is interesting that meditation was one of your triggers. Meditation and mindful awareness is something I'm personally spending a lot of time on to reverse the effects of bipolar -- specifically to slow racing thoughts and dislocation from the moment. For me, I feel like it helps. Many things that cause me anxiety I'm able to work out through meditation. For me, one of the hard parts is just letting go.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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Pyschosis is not an accident, and it is not caused by kundalini yoga (although in this case indirectly). It is my belief that psychosis is the product of spiritual crisis. Humans are, fundamentally, mythological creatures - we have deeply-held beliefs and myths that guide our basic thinking, and we hold onto these firmly. When something challenges these fundamentals (usually some horrible trauma), we slip into spirit…

Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (the main causes of psychosis) are genetic, not caused by "spiritual crisis". The spiritual stuff is a symptom of psychosis, not a cause. "Heritability for schizophrenia was 64% and for bipolar disorder 59%." http://europepmc.org/articles/pmc3879718

To clarify, I'm obviously not saying all spiritual stuff is psychosis! I'm saying that it's very common for the hallucinations and delusions in a psychotic episode to have a spiritual or religious element, such as believing that you are a messenger from God, or that you're having visions.

Re: MentalHealthError: an exception occurred

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post #114

This story struck a nerve because (in hindsight) I saw the same thing happening to my brother when he was about 19. He was suddenly interested in astrology, reiki, "tachyon energy disks", epiphanies, angels and demons, the vibrations of the universe. At the time I thought it was a phase. My mother was always talking (tongue-in-cheek?) about her "parking angel" and burning incense, so I thought he had just picked up t…

This is an interesting read on the difference of views between the Western and African views of 'mental illness' from an African (Witch) Doctor after visiting some western mental hospitals: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/shaman-sees-mental-hospital/ tl;dr: Most of what we view as mental illness they view as the birth or awakening of a 'healer' and should be treated that way for proper acceptance of the person…

Interesting that a patient positively responded to the Shamanic approach. Anecdotal evidence, but it makes you wonder.
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