TTIP Enters New and Dangerous Stage as Democracy Is Dismantled in Secret

Post by Integer » Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 1:29 PM UTC

iMerNibor wrote: post #8

sandbags wrote: post #6

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What is really puzzling me is how the procedure for this got approved, and by whom. Who is telling MP's and MEP's that they have to follow these rules? And how are they bound by them?

The guys pushing ttip i guess They're probably allowed to do it however they please, after all they wrote the document and are free to "license" it however they want What puzzles me is that TTIP is even in consideration anymore with these measures and all the secret keeping in place. If it truly were that good for us WHY on earth would you take these measures?

Post by makecheck » Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 1:32 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #36

hollander wrote: post #9

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They should send someone in who has a photographic memory. In two hours he/she can browse those 600 pages, and later someone else can type them out. And this may all be done for a good hourly fee.

They should pass an emergency law that requires all documents containing suggested content for national legislation be published in full, made available to the public via government websites (or national equivalents). Wording not published could not be included in any legislation. Anything short of that makes a mockery of the idea that we have any sort of democracy. A democracy where the demos aren't allowed to read…

Post by hellbanner » Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 1:33 PM UTC

jokoon wrote: post #35

Sometimes I just want to think those treaties' function is to curtail multinationals, so that countries can be able to effectively organize themselves against those corporations who have become hard to regulate in a context of globalization. So if you want to successfully do it, you have to keep as many people in the dark, since I also believe those big companies have a tremendous influence on politicians. Maybe it's…

Post by AnAfrican » Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

iMerNibor wrote: post #8

sandbags wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is really puzzling me is how the procedure for this got approved, and by whom. Who is telling MP's and MEP's that they have to follow these rules? And how are they bound by them?

The guys pushing ttip i guess They're probably allowed to do it however they please, after all they wrote the document and are free to "license" it however they want What puzzles me is that TTIP is even in consideration anymore with these measures and all the secret keeping in place. If it truly were that good for us WHY on earth would you take these measures?

Post by JupiterMoon » Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 1:41 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #39

reacweb wrote: post #33

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This kind of procedure is clearly there to fight democracy. I think the TTIP should not be adopted whatever its content, just because of this non democratic procedure. The people who have initiate this procedure should be investigated. Maybe a law should be adopted to punish these nasty people.

> Maybe a law should be adopted to punish these nasty people. I don't think you should punish people with ex post facto laws, and in many countries you can't.