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If a government is going to spy on me, I'd rather it be my own.
'If I'm going to be forced to eat a pile of shit for my lunch, I'd rather it be my own' No thanks.
I will always remember that days when german businesses requested servers in their offices because AWS was under NSA...
The concern with the NSA is dragnet surveillance. The concern with the Bundestrojaner is pinpoint surveillance (plus the high risk of third party abuse of infected systems and the chance of infecting unrelated systems).
> "basically we now have the skills in an area where we did not have this kind of skill... when we were STASI
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This is not true at all. The German Government is asking Facebook to delete comments which could be categorized as hate speech ("Volksverhetzung" in German). These comments are not "negative of her policies", they are calling on people to kill, gas or otherwise attack refugees, politicans or journalists. They are simply asking Facebook to comply with German law. Some comments comparable to those in question are curat…
When a state defines 'hate speech' laws they're really defining 'thought criminal' laws. Merkle and co. are trying to manipulate public opinion through the destruction of contrarian thought from the public realm.
When you stand on the street and loudly demand that specific people or groups of people should be killed or injured in specific ways, that's a different matter from just saying those same people shouldn't be allowed into the country or should be deported.
One is demanding a change in policy or political action. The other is demanding vigilante "justice" and lynching.
This has nothing to do with Merkel (who btw is a conservative -- her refugee policy has been the single most liberal thing she did since entering office) and everything to do with upholding the constitution and the state of law.
Whether you demand the murder of refugees, nazis or antifa, if you openly do so while addressing the public, you are committing a crime under German law. The law protects all humans, not just refugees.
Merkel has already told facebook and twitter to delete comments and ban accounts negative of her 'policies'.
This is not true at all. The German Government is asking Facebook to delete comments which could be categorized as hate speech ("Volksverhetzung" in German). These comments are not "negative of her policies", they are calling on people to kill, gas or otherwise attack refugees, politicans or journalists. They are simply asking Facebook to comply with German law. Some comments comparable to those in question are curat…
The “no censorship (with some exceptions)” law in our constitution is usually interpreted in the sense that you can say, write, show, publish anything you want and that only afterwards a court can rule that it’s violating some law and censor it („Verbot der Vorzensur“). This principle is turned upside down when the government demands that private companies do the censoring and all public oversight is lost.
Also: I’m pretty sad that gone mad „Asylkritiker“ are here too :( I always thought of hackernews as this little civilized island.
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> you can't have a surveillance camera pointed to public space Interesting so a business for example can't have a camera monitoring outside (or inside) the place of business for security purposes? Can they apply for an exemption and is it normally granted?
Inside a business is not a "public place", it is a place to which the public have access. Outside a business is similar, unless the camera is outside and pointing to the road or pavement. In England if you have CCTV you're expected to register with the Information Commissioner. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protectio... https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ Even so, we're heavily surveilled in…
(supercool, for that occasion I figured out that there's an official english translation, didn't know that)
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This does not concern mere anti-immigrant posts but those that are blatantly against long-existing German laws, such as calls for violence, incitement of the masses, trivialization the actions of the Nazi regime and so on. Those have been against Facebook's own community guidelines before but enforcement has been spotty.
Don't bother... "actionwords" is a troll account, created 2 hours ago. I am not so sure if it is a troll with political motivation or just a "for the lulz"-kind. On a side-note: it is very interesting that on HN, these kinds of trolls are way less visible than on other platforms
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You have a bit too positive image of us ;) Yes, it will spark discussions again, and certainly be tested in front of our highest courts, and probably fail in some aspects and send back to the drawing boards again after a few years, but I don't expect that much "outrage", at least as long as it remains a tool for few specialized cases.
I'm working in Germany (Berlin) and I was shocked by how often you see "cash-only" signs and how electronic payments are avoided on a privacy ground. Plus I saw the reaction from a German colleagues when it was a matter of communicating some personal data to a company that manages the salaries and I realised how Germans are obsessed (not necesserily in a bad way) about their privacy