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When Are You Really an Adult?

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Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

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I truly don't know, I've never met a person who is dependent on others due to medical issues, so I wasn't referring to them.

I bet most people would consider stephen hawking an adult.

I bet that too. He has a world-class career, made a fortune, had several wives and multiple children. He hit every "adulthood" milestone western society ever came up with.

Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

#92

I hold that there is one very specific moment that signifies the transition from childhood into adulthood that is universal for all people – the moment you first realize that when it comes down to it, you are the only person who is responsible for you . That eventually, the charity of others will run out and all that will be left is your own reflection staring back at you, at which point you will need to decide wheth…

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Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

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"There is a time in the life of every boy when he for the first time takes the backward view of life. Perhaps that is the moment when he crosses the line into manhood. The boy is walking through the street of his town. He is thinking of the future and of the figure he will cut in the world. Ambitions and regrets awake within him. Suddenly something happens; he stops under a tree and waits as for a voice calling his name. Ghosts of old things creep into his consciousness; the voices outside of himself whisper a message concerning the limitations of life. From being quite sure of himself and his future he becomes not at all sure. If he be an imaginative boy a door is torn open and for the first time he looks out upon the world, seeing, as though they marched in procession before him, the countless figures of men who before his time have come out of nothingness into the world, lived their lives and again disappeared into nothingness. The sadness of sophistication has come to the boy. With a little gasp he sees himself as merely a leaf blown by the wind through the streets of his village. He knows that in spite of all the stout talk of his fellows he must live and die in uncertainty, a thing blown by the winds, a thing destined like corn to wilt in the sun. He shivers and looks eagerly about. The eighteen years he has lived seem but a moment, a breathing space in the long march of humanity. Already he hears death calling. With all his heart he wants to come close to some other human, touch someone with his hands, be touched by the hand of another. If he prefers that the other be a woman, that is because he believes that a woman will be gentle, that she will understand. He wants, most of all, understanding."

Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

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"At about age 22 or 23, the brain is pretty much done developing, according to Steinberg, who studies adolescence and brain development."

"Adult plasticity still allows for modifications to the brain, but at that point, the neural structures aren’t going to change."

The above changes to neuroplasticity really hit me hard when I restarted college in my 30s.

Despite "passing" for a 20some student, I realized I learned differently than my younger colleagues.

I had to rely on association with my previous knowledge quite a bit more.

Learning something completely new became near impossible hill to climb.

Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

#95
post #59

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According to Slate's tool here, only 9% of married couples have only separate bank accounts (the situation where you have to ask your husband for pocket money if you don't have a job) : http://www.slate.com/articles/life/home_economics/2011/01/ou...

My husband and I have a joint bank account. I still don't feel that money he earns is my money.

But do you feel like the money you earn is "yours" then?

I think maybe that's the disconnect. I don't feel the money I earn "belongs to me". Same for my wife. I don't set my own priorities and budgets. We discuss them.

We're definitely not perfect, and I've definitely bought things that irked her and vice versa. But the joint account means just that. Unless it comes in a birthday card or something, money goes in to a pool. I don't keep a running balance, negative or positive in my head for my contribution.

Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

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This is hilarious. But do you realize you're implying that women can't be adults? The discussion sounds a lot like 'when do you become a man' than it does 'when do you become an adult.' For instance, most women throughout history were financially dependent on their husband. They would not make independent decisions. They were not solely responsible. Did that mean they weren't adults? The 20-30% of women who still bec…

Women are adults the instant they sharpie a mustache onto their finger and place it under their nose.

"InstaAdult Sharpies" should be a thing.

Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

#97
post #35

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You certainly are not responsible for other people. If you can't see others as beings with equal rights, meaning you don't naturally treat people the way you would like to be treated, you are a sociopath. You are a danger to others and you are why we have a justice system to take such people out of our society. You should not live for other people and other people do not have to live for you. For me being an adult is…

So, in your world, someone who perhaps cares too much about others' welfare is a dangerous sociopath who should be thrown in prison? Okay!

I was responding to his reductio ad absurdum which is indeed valid if it is not balanced by the realization that others are equal, it should not (have to) be balanced by needing to be responsible for other people. You are not responsible for others, but they are deserving of your respect, as long as they respect you. I'd also rather have people do something for me because it makes them feel good than because they somehow feel responsible. I think you are misinterpreting my statement. And maybe I read to much Ayn Rand ;)

Re: When Are You Really an Adult?

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post #7

Good grief that was a really long-winded way of saying "it depends on the person".

I got about halfway through, then kept scrolling to see how long it really was, especially since I felt that I had gotten the gist of the article... WAY too long for what could be succinctly described in a page or two.
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