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Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by totalrobe »

bitwize wrote: post #67
totalrobe wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thinkpad still has a pretty hardcore following among linux users..

Linux users are statistical noise in the user base. If they're the only ones seriously interested, Lenovo management will look at the numbers and decide it's just not worth it. Hey, maybe someone can Kickstart a 3D-printed retro ThinkPad case for modern laptop system boards.

In the US, yes. My understanding that desktop linux is rather popular in asia, russia, and eastern europe, and I've seen that lenovo offers thinkpads with linux pre-installed outside the US.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by rayiner »

userbinator wrote: post #11
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Other features they definitely need to add back before I'll consider buying another ThinkPad: - Non-chiclet keyboard with decent layout - HDD and network activity indicator lights - Hardware wireless-off switch - Latching lid They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thick…

> Non-chiclet keyboard with decent layout

I don't really get this complaint. They're all scissor-switch keyboards. I've got an old X220 lying around, and use a T450s for work. The chiclet keyboard on the latter is significantly better. In terms of key stability, I think the new Macbook keyboard is actually the best.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by frou_dh »

frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Boy, I wish my ThinkPad X200s came with an IPS panel. I got the 'high res' screen option (1440x900@12") and the viewing angle is woeful. Using it even in a perfectly optimal position, washout/shift is still noticeable at either the top or bottom of the screen.

In my book, including a garbage-spec panel disqualifies a computer from being a quality product no matter what range it is otherwise part of. Sadly this is (was?) all too common.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by dingo_bat »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #24
dingo_bat wrote: post #14

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>HDD and network activity indicator lights I never understood the point of removing these. I think it may just be cutting costs, trying to save a few cents on the custom shape LEDs.

With SSDs and the density of network traffic these days, both indicator lights are pretty much obsolete. Your HDD activity light would never be on, and the network activity light would constantly be on.

Maybe you can set the network light to light up only when the utilization is above a certain level? Same goes for HDD light, we can use something like active time every 100 ms. My point is, these are useful things and it doesn't make much sense to remove them just to save some small fraction of a dollar.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by ue_ »

frou_dh wrote: post #83
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Boy, I wish my ThinkPad X200s came with an IPS panel. I got the 'high res' screen option (1440x900@12") and the viewing angle is woeful. Using it even in a perfectly optimal position, washout/shift is still noticeable at either the top or bottom of the screen. In my book, including a garbage-spec panel disqualifies a computer from being a quality product no matter what range it is otherwise part of. Sadly this is (wa…

Could you not swap it for an IPS panel? I've been thinking of getting an IPS panel for my x220, and I've seen people replacing them. I don't know if it's possible on x220s though.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by legulere »

frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

I don't know why people still insist on a hot-swappable battery today. They used to make sense when they lasted 3 hours and broke down after maybe one year of use.

As long as it's not glued in or tugged away behind dozens of other components you can still easily change it with a screwdriver.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by frou_dh »

ue_ wrote: post #85
frou_dh wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boy, I wish my ThinkPad X200s came with an IPS panel. I got the 'high res' screen option (1440x900@12") and the viewing angle is woeful. Using it even in a perfectly optimal position, washout/shift is still noticeable at either the top or bottom of the screen. In my book, including a garbage-spec panel disqualifies a computer from being a quality product no matter what range it is otherwise part of. Sadly this is (wa…

Could you not swap it for an IPS panel? I've been thinking of getting an IPS panel for my x220, and I've seen people replacing them. I don't know if it's possible on x220s though.

Looked into it some time ago and I think there was something about having the no-webcam, beefed-up-wifi-antenna option that made it difficult.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by Qiasfah »

leaveyou wrote: post #35
floatboth wrote: post #21

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You can remap Print Screen (or any key really) to anything you want in software. Home and End... Have you seen this keyboard? They're in the top right corner. Page Up/Down near the arrow keys is really nice.

They were not visible in the image posted by frik. I see them now. PgUp/Down are nice if they are "wherever you are used to look for them" but for some unknown reasons most brands keep making changes to the layout with every model. Another irritating trend is to make the touch pad unnecessarily big while the keyboard is crowded and pushed so close to the screen that you cover the lower part of it with your hands when…

"but for some unknown reasons most brands keep making changes to the layout with every model"

The thinkpad keyboard layout has been consistent as of late. The T460(s) keyboard layout is the same as the T450(s) keyboard, which is the same as the T440(s) layout, which is almost the same as the T430(s) layout with minor differences in the function keys.

These thinkpads are not an example of a brand changing the layout every model.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by tertius »

frou_dh wrote: post #83
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Boy, I wish my ThinkPad X200s came with an IPS panel. I got the 'high res' screen option (1440x900@12") and the viewing angle is woeful. Using it even in a perfectly optimal position, washout/shift is still noticeable at either the top or bottom of the screen. In my book, including a garbage-spec panel disqualifies a computer from being a quality product no matter what range it is otherwise part of. Sadly this is (wa…

I have the same one, with the high end CPU (2.13GHz) and panel. I'm waiting for a refresh, the X260 may be an option.

I've given it a 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM. And while I like the resolution on a 12", I often try to adjust the angle of the display while working because the viewing angle is so bad and I think it may just be off, only to find out that it's just not that bright.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by krisdol »

Infinitesimus wrote: post #25
dingo_bat wrote: post #13

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New gen OLEDs like the one in Samsung S6 do not have any significant burn-in. If this thinkpad's display is sufficiently advanced, there won't be a problem. I do hope they are sourcing it from Samsung.

The s6's expected longevity (~2yrs per the contract model) is much smaller than the expected longevity of say, the average college students who buys this laptop for use in college. For the record, my Note 4 isn't showing any burn in after > 1yr of use, but who knows what it will be like 4 years down the line. A small number of users report burn-in on the newer s6/6p so I hope QC on the new Yogas will be tighter at th…

How do you QC a defect that takes a year to verify?

I had burn-in on my old galaxy s4. Don't know or care if it's the "new" technology. The primary burn-in was noticeable due to Android's fixed top notification bar, as it almost never changed position or color. The times I would fire up a horizontal view or full screen app, the bar would obviously remain visible. I'm glad they wised up to iOS's approach and started blending the bar in with the app when possible.

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