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Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by mmarx »

userbinator wrote: post #11
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Other features they definitely need to add back before I'll consider buying another ThinkPad: - Non-chiclet keyboard with decent layout - HDD and network activity indicator lights - Hardware wireless-off switch - Latching lid They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thick…

> - HDD and network activity indicator lights

Also, a battery and power supply LED that is not _on the back of the device_, so I can actually see them while using the device.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by dogma1138 »

icebraining wrote: post #30
toomanybeersies wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With SSDs and the density of network traffic these days, both indicator lights are pretty much obsolete. Your HDD activity light would never be on, and the network activity light would constantly be on.

As an user of a X201 with an SSD, that's not really the case, the differences of blinking rate are noticeable.

AHCI and NVMe don't support this type of activity polling so I don't have a clue what your X201 bases the HDD usage off but it's really not the old IDE standard LED blinking, which makes me thing it's either faked intentionally or the same thing that will happen if you plug in a modern SATA to a motherboard with HDD activity monitoring it will just blink erratically regardless of what is actually happening.

modern SATA drives doesn't matter if they are still mechanical or SSD's don't work the same, your OS doesn't work the same when you save a file it doesn't mean that it's being written that moment, it can be in RAM, it can be in your HDD's cache or it can be written down.

HDD activity LED's haven't been doing anything real for over a decade now...

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by JoshTriplett »

Infinitesimus wrote: post #25
dingo_bat wrote: post #13

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New gen OLEDs like the one in Samsung S6 do not have any significant burn-in. If this thinkpad's display is sufficiently advanced, there won't be a problem. I do hope they are sourcing it from Samsung.

The s6's expected longevity (~2yrs per the contract model) is much smaller than the expected longevity of say, the average college students who buys this laptop for use in college. For the record, my Note 4 isn't showing any burn in after > 1yr of use, but who knows what it will be like 4 years down the line. A small number of users report burn-in on the newer s6/6p so I hope QC on the new Yogas will be tighter at th…

I would hope that the warranty covers such a defect.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by leaveyou »

floatboth wrote: post #21
leaveyou wrote: post #18

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I really don't understand what is their logic when they place a full Print Screen key (which I use 10 times a year at most) right between the Alt and Ctrl but the arrow keys are smaller and crowded and Home and End (which I use every time I edit something) are not even on the keyboard (or maybe there is some unhandy Fn+ shortcut?). WTF ? I got used to Sony Vaio which has full arrow keys and a smaller shift and an add…

You can remap Print Screen (or any key really) to anything you want in software. Home and End... Have you seen this keyboard? They're in the top right corner. Page Up/Down near the arrow keys is really nice.

They were not visible in the image posted by frik. I see them now. PgUp/Down are nice if they are "wherever you are used to look for them" but for some unknown reasons most brands keep making changes to the layout with every model. Another irritating trend is to make the touch pad unnecessarily big while the keyboard is crowded and pushed so close to the screen that you cover the lower part of it with your hands when you type.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by JoshTriplett »

dingo_bat wrote: post #14
userbinator wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other features they definitely need to add back before I'll consider buying another ThinkPad: - Non-chiclet keyboard with decent layout - HDD and network activity indicator lights - Hardware wireless-off switch - Latching lid They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thick…

>HDD and network activity indicator lights I never understood the point of removing these. I think it may just be cutting costs, trying to save a few cents on the custom shape LEDs.

Personally, I find blinking LEDs quite annoying; if I needed an indicator for either of those, the OS could easily provide one. If I could disable the LEDs my laptop does have, I would, with the exception of showing a power LED if and only if the screen is off.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by JoshTriplett »

userbinator wrote: post #11
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Other features they definitely need to add back before I'll consider buying another ThinkPad: - Non-chiclet keyboard with decent layout - HDD and network activity indicator lights - Hardware wireless-off switch - Latching lid They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thick…

> Hardware wireless-off switch

I have to wonder, why? The OS can do that quite well in software.

> Latching lid

More moving parts means more potential breakage.

> They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thickness.

Different customers have different preferences, but the majority of people do like thin, almost as much as light.

All that aside, check out the proposed ThinkPad Retro. Looks quite promising to me.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by Aoyagi »

frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Tech people trust Chinese companies nowadays?
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