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Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by devsquid » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 8:22 AM UTC

turaw wrote: post #11

ggreer wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though. Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptop…

I'm on a ~5 year old Thinkpad (w/ an i5-520m; apparently it benches to roughly the same as the M-5Y31 that's probably in your macbook), but IDEA pins a couple cores on my processor to 100% for half a minute whenever it opens a project and incurs a noticeable delay when tabbing to and from its window. Compared to my work machine, IntelliJ truly crawls. I suppose I'm asking, have you had _any_ responsiveness problems?…

runs flawlessly for me on my 8~ yr old device (some AMD quad core thing). Boot ups are always a bit of a crunch, but afterwards its one of the best performing IDEs I've ever used.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by pron » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 8:28 AM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #9

thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

That's not unusual for any app based on the JVM.

That has nothing to do with the JVM. It's simply a result of it being a very feature-rich IDE.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by kuma4 » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 8:38 AM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #9

thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

That's not unusual for any app based on the JVM.

Java UI is sluggish and looks strange unlike OS native UIs.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by russjr08 » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 8:58 AM UTC

spiralganglion wrote: post #3

As someone who is about to heavily start using the Cursive IDE (built on top of IntelliJ IDEA), this is wonderful news. Coming from a frontend web dev background, Java 6 has been a layer of slime at the bottom of the barrel of sweet wine that is Clojure. Now, as soon as Minecraft gets off Java 6, I can rid my system of that infernal scourge. https://cursive-ide.com

Have you upgraded to the new Minecraft launcher? It bundles its own JRE, and I'm pretty sure it's Java 7.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by codecamper » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 9:00 AM UTC

Does anyone know if there was some relationship between Jetbrains & Netbeans? Netbeans started as Xelfi in Prague mid 90s. Jetbrains is also based in Prague.

A friend of mine started Xelfi -- I'm trying to figure out how awesome my friend is.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by izacus » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 9:00 AM UTC

rms_returns wrote: post #4

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Hmm, how does that work? Does Eclipse now have meaningful Gradle or Maven integration for Android so you can finally use AAR libraries?

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by russjr08 » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 9:01 AM UTC

rms_returns wrote: post #4

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Just anecdotal obviously, but most of the people I know just use the community edition. That's free, so the money argument doesn't seem to make sense there.

Now yes, lots of people do pay for the ultimate edition, but I'm sure if people thought the free alternate was better, they'd use that over paying for something.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by SquareWheel » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 9:08 AM UTC

spiralganglion wrote: post #3

As someone who is about to heavily start using the Cursive IDE (built on top of IntelliJ IDEA), this is wonderful news. Coming from a frontend web dev background, Java 6 has been a layer of slime at the bottom of the barrel of sweet wine that is Clojure. Now, as soon as Minecraft gets off Java 6, I can rid my system of that infernal scourge. https://cursive-ide.com

>Now, as soon as Minecraft gets off Java 6, I can rid my system of that infernal scourge.

Minecraft's Windows launcher has actually included Java 8[1] for some time. Even if using your own install though, it should work just fine (or even better).

[1] https://twitter.com/MojangSupport/status/562199004516466689

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by LoSboccacc » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 9:20 AM UTC

pron wrote: post #32

userbinator wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not unusual for any app based on the JVM.

That has nothing to do with the JVM. It's simply a result of it being a very feature-rich IDE.

It may. Java io stack is quite bad at certain tasks like crawling files and tracking changes.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by innocentoldguy » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 9:25 AM UTC

cmsimike wrote: post #21

dominotw wrote: post #19

now just embed neovim and make it awesome.

IdeaVim [0], a free plugin, is the best vim emulator I've ever used. [0] https://github.com/JetBrains/ideavim

I agree. IdeaVim is the best Vim emulator I've used as well. However, it is still just an emulator and it lacks some Vim features that I use all the time. IdeaVim is very good, but not as good as having NeoVim embedded would be, I think.