IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by ingve » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 2:18 AM UTC

IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8
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Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Post by thejosh » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 4:42 AM UTC

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

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Post by spiralganglion » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 4:57 AM UTC

As someone who is about to heavily start using the Cursive IDE (built on top of IntelliJ IDEA), this is wonderful news. Coming from a frontend web dev background, Java 6 has been a layer of slime at the bottom of the barrel of sweet wine that is Clojure. Now, as soon as Minecraft gets off Java 6, I can rid my system of that infernal scourge.

https://cursive-ide.com

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Post by rms_returns » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:01 AM UTC

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out.

In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking graphics/colors).

But features that eclipse rules are more substantial (like performance, ability to work on wide range of projects).

The only reason that intellij appears to have more fanboys is that it doesn't come free. And its human nature that if you spend bucks on something, the free alternative will obviously look inferior to you!

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Post by n0us » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:04 AM UTC

rms_returns wrote: post #4

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Ironically enough I finally caved and bought a sublime text license a few months ago but since then I've learned vim and mostly use that now.

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Post by vvanders » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:13 AM UTC

rms_returns wrote: post #4

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Eclipse is not what I would call the paramount of performance.

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Post by fierycatnet » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:22 AM UTC

spiralganglion wrote: post #3

As someone who is about to heavily start using the Cursive IDE (built on top of IntelliJ IDEA), this is wonderful news. Coming from a frontend web dev background, Java 6 has been a layer of slime at the bottom of the barrel of sweet wine that is Clojure. Now, as soon as Minecraft gets off Java 6, I can rid my system of that infernal scourge. https://cursive-ide.com

Cursive is great, glad to see it mentioned. JetBrains are doing good for themselves, I hope their Kotlin language will gain some traction eventually too. Cursive is amazing because it's built on top of open source IDEA but I'd like to see Kotlin take off as well. Overall I think JetBrains are doing great.

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Post by ggreer » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:28 AM UTC

thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though.

Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptops, which often contain slower 7200RPM and 5400RPM drives.

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Post by userbinator » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:31 AM UTC

thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

That's not unusual for any app based on the JVM.

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Post by jghn » Sun, Jan 03, 2016, 5:39 AM UTC

rms_returns wrote: post #4

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Most of the folks at my work just use the free version of IntelliJ instead of bothering to get a license from IT. Not sure your argument about it being $$ driven holds water