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IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#11

Post by turaw »

ggreer wrote: post #8
thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though. Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptop…

I'm on a ~5 year old Thinkpad (w/ an i5-520m; apparently it benches to roughly the same as the M-5Y31 that's probably in your macbook), but IDEA pins a couple cores on my processor to 100% for half a minute whenever it opens a project and incurs a noticeable delay when tabbing to and from its window. Compared to my work machine, IntelliJ truly crawls.

I suppose I'm asking, have you had _any_ responsiveness problems? Or does it work flawlessly?

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#12

Post by melted »

vvanders wrote: post #6
rms_returns wrote: post #4

Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Eclipse is not what I would call the paramount of performance.

Eclipse has gotten quite a bit better over the past couple of years. If you haven't tried it in a while, try again.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#13

Post by bitmapbrother »

userbinator wrote: post #9
thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

That's not unusual for any app based on the JVM.

Reminds me of the time I installed Visual Studio 2015. That pig sprayed over 30 GB of files onto my HDD and still needed 3rd party plugins to be on the same level as IntelliJ.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#14

Post by rms_returns »

melted wrote: post #12
vvanders wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eclipse is not what I would call the paramount of performance.

Eclipse has gotten quite a bit better over the past couple of years. If you haven't tried it in a while, try again.

Second that. I had a few issues with trying out mars, but I use kepler daily and it simply rocks on Ubuntu 14.04!

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#16

Post by kris-s »

turaw wrote: post #11
ggreer wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though. Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptop…

I'm on a ~5 year old Thinkpad (w/ an i5-520m; apparently it benches to roughly the same as the M-5Y31 that's probably in your macbook), but IDEA pins a couple cores on my processor to 100% for half a minute whenever it opens a project and incurs a noticeable delay when tabbing to and from its window. Compared to my work machine, IntelliJ truly crawls. I suppose I'm asking, have you had _any_ responsiveness problems?…

Is it a big project? In PyCharm at least, the indexing is pretty slow even on my beefier machines. Once that's done it's smooth.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#17

Post by eventualhorizon »

turaw wrote: post #11
ggreer wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though. Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptop…

I'm on a ~5 year old Thinkpad (w/ an i5-520m; apparently it benches to roughly the same as the M-5Y31 that's probably in your macbook), but IDEA pins a couple cores on my processor to 100% for half a minute whenever it opens a project and incurs a noticeable delay when tabbing to and from its window. Compared to my work machine, IntelliJ truly crawls. I suppose I'm asking, have you had _any_ responsiveness problems?…

How much heap are you allocating? I was seeing unusually poor performance while working with a large project until I bumped the heap up to 4-6g. It still takes a minute when I open the project but is pretty performant otherwise. Also, I've had to invalidate the cache a couple of times when idea was behaving strangely (over a 5 yr or so period)

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#18

Post by ggreer »

turaw wrote: post #11
ggreer wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though. Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptop…

I'm on a ~5 year old Thinkpad (w/ an i5-520m; apparently it benches to roughly the same as the M-5Y31 that's probably in your macbook), but IDEA pins a couple cores on my processor to 100% for half a minute whenever it opens a project and incurs a noticeable delay when tabbing to and from its window. Compared to my work machine, IntelliJ truly crawls. I suppose I'm asking, have you had _any_ responsiveness problems?…

I just timed it, and IntelliJ 15.0.2 took 27 seconds to start up, load a project[1], and finish indexing it. The UI was visible after 17 seconds. As soon as they appeared, UI elements worked fine. I notice no delay or lag when ⌘ + tabbing to IntelliJ.

I'd like it if IntelliJ was faster, but I don't have many qualms with the current level of performance.

1. This project: https://github.com/Floobits/floobits-intellij

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

#20

Post by bdcravens »

ggreer wrote: post #8
thejosh wrote: post #2

I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

Maybe your performance issues are caused by plugins? I have no problems using IntelliJ on a base model 12" MacBook (1.1GHz Core M, 8GB RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD). I don't use Symfony2, though. Side note: I am of the opinion that no matter you're doing, SSDs are a must. If you don't already use one as your primary drive, please upgrade. Once you go SSD, any machine with platters will feel broken. This goes double for laptop…

I'm running WebStorm on the same machine, and haven't noticed it being too slow.
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