Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

Post by polemic » Mon, Dec 14, 2015, 8:57 PM UTC

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Hey Australia, why not consider moving to NZ? 1. You can already move / live / work here without any immigration hassle. 2. We have an actual UFB fibre to the home network rolling out now that actually works. 3. Local and central government is pretty keen to support the technology scene - from government grants (refer Callaghan Innovation) to local tech hubs. AND help to connect in SF ( http://kiwilandingpad.com/ ) 4…

It might have changed in the last 5 years, but I found #5 a point of contention. I found it incredibly hard to find a new job opening when I wanted one, let alone get hired for them. Flew to London and have had jobs thrown at me nearly every day since. I suspect hiring has the same issues. The population is just so small. There's a joke that when you say from New Zealand, somebody will ask "Do you know Karl?". Which…

Post by polemic » Mon, Dec 14, 2015, 9:01 PM UTC

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Better coffee? That's a pretty huge claim ...

8) Better beer

Post by dhruvsuyam » Mon, Dec 14, 2015, 9:07 PM UTC

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Moving to Sydney for a job could be almost as expensive as moving to the States. I'm looking in Melbourne but the market down there seems like a mess right now. Couple that with the falling Australian dollar and moving to the US and getting paid in USD doesn't sound so bad.

The primary motivation for those I know who have moved to the Bay Area isn't the pay (although that certainly is part of it), it's finding more interesting work and being in the SF/SV culture. Personally, I don't like the start-up culture, and I happen to work at a place that does interesting things already, so I'm quite happy staying in Canberra.

Post by scrupulusalbion » Mon, Dec 14, 2015, 11:00 PM UTC

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The key point of the blog post is that any tech company that succeeds in Australia does so purely on its own two feet and that governments are at best mildly supportive of technology and at worst actively hostile. Turnbull destroyed the fibre to the home NBN and I can't see high speed ubiquitous Internet access coming any time soon. Imagine if 95% of Australian home - including ones in the country areas - had super h…

I really don't understand the NBN meme. I've worked for small tech companies in Australia my entire (not so long) career, and access to high internet speeds has never ever really been a problem. When you're a programmer, what is the difference to your work between 10 and 100mbps, really? Yes, regional areas should be upgraded from dialup/slow sattelite to at least 10mbps. What kind of impact will that have wrt the OP…

Post by ajdlinux » Tue, Dec 15, 2015, 6:05 AM UTC

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The primary motivation for those I know who have moved to the Bay Area isn't the pay (although that certainly is part of it), it's finding more interesting work and being in the SF/SV culture. Personally, I don't like the start-up culture, and I happen to work at a place that does interesting things already, so I'm quite happy staying in Canberra.

I would like to point out to those unfamiliar with Canberra, that if you live in one of the older suburbs with overhead powerlines (and not even on the radar for NBN), you can get Transact, which will supply dead stable 60 mbit VDSL2 fibre connection for ~AUD150/month on a business plan i.e. static IP. Plus, the weather and traffic in Canberra is way better than Melbourne. (Longing for the weather to remain constant…