Live data from Hacker News

Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

fourlightyears.blogspot.com

71–80 of 109 posts

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm Australian and want to escape to Vancouver (for various reasons, email me if you're really interested). Can you provide any pointers?

I'm Canadian, so I don't know if I can give pointers to moving to Canada. I've just dropped you an email, let me know if/how I can help you out.

Yeah, worded that badly - which email address did you use? I didn't get it.

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#72
post #52

Hey Australia, why not consider moving to NZ? 1. You can already move / live / work here without any immigration hassle. 2. We have an actual UFB fibre to the home network rolling out now that actually works. 3. Local and central government is pretty keen to support the technology scene - from government grants (refer Callaghan Innovation) to local tech hubs. AND help to connect in SF ( http://kiwilandingpad.com/ ) 4…

Interesting :)

How about VC / Angel / funding scene? Is it pretty vibrant there?

PS. The only downside to your offer is the weather, I like my weather 20-30*C :) I've been to Auckland and Wellington before and I struggle with the cold even during summer.

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#73

> In an age where the state of the art broadband to the home in the U.S.A. is 10 gigabits, Australia is currently building (it claims) a National Broadband Network at great expense that promises a blistering 12 to 100 megabits per second at the top end I know it mentioned "state of the art", but the vast majority of Americans would be lucky to get 100 megabits without breaking the bank every month. Many (most?) don't…

The point in the blog post is that if you are currently building a national broadband network, why would you build anything except state of the art?

Politics got in the way.

Plus, Labor should have done a better job communicating the value of (FTTH) NBN. The average people in Australia think NBN is just to watch YouTube in HD.

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#74
post #52

Hey Australia, why not consider moving to NZ? 1. You can already move / live / work here without any immigration hassle. 2. We have an actual UFB fibre to the home network rolling out now that actually works. 3. Local and central government is pretty keen to support the technology scene - from government grants (refer Callaghan Innovation) to local tech hubs. AND help to connect in SF ( http://kiwilandingpad.com/ ) 4…

Better coffee? That's a pretty huge claim ...

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#76
post #24

> In an age where the state of the art broadband to the home in the U.S.A. is 10 gigabits, Australia is currently building (it claims) a National Broadband Network at great expense that promises a blistering 12 to 100 megabits per second at the top end I know it mentioned "state of the art", but the vast majority of Americans would be lucky to get 100 megabits without breaking the bank every month. Many (most?) don't…

Comcast is horrible and has a monopoly in Sacramento, California. Fastest speeds are typically 25 - 75mbps. 25mbps costs $59.99. Well, technically you can get AT&T "high speed" internet for $50+ per month, at a whopping 18mbps max. This is the capital of Califoria, so, yeah.

AT&T, rolled out fiber to many of the suburbs. I can't imagine switching back to Comcast, night and day.

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#77
post #52

Hey Australia, why not consider moving to NZ? 1. You can already move / live / work here without any immigration hassle. 2. We have an actual UFB fibre to the home network rolling out now that actually works. 3. Local and central government is pretty keen to support the technology scene - from government grants (refer Callaghan Innovation) to local tech hubs. AND help to connect in SF ( http://kiwilandingpad.com/ ) 4…

It might have changed in the last 5 years, but I found #5 a point of contention.

I found it incredibly hard to find a new job opening when I wanted one, let alone get hired for them. Flew to London and have had jobs thrown at me nearly every day since. I suspect hiring has the same issues.

The population is just so small. There's a joke that when you say from New Zealand, somebody will ask "Do you know Karl?". Which quite often, happens to be true.

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#78
post #51

Disclosure, I work for data61, a major recipient of the gov't new innovation strategy. I'm also Canadian and have worked in technology in SF, LA, NYC, Vancouver and Santiago Chile. I have a very different perspective on this. Australia has had more than just one Atlassian. They've also got Campaign Monitor, BigCommerce, Canva, Where 2 (became Google Maps), Envato. Australia is also growing Freelancer (I don't believe…

I'm on the other side of the divide: entities partnering with CSIRO (now part of Data61) to collaboratively bring research to market. On the technical front, they are great, if a little condescending at times. It's on the "business" side where they are difficult to work with, potentially to the point of killing the venture. For a government organisation, who you might think would be on "your" side, they are as hostil…

There is a tendency in Australia for research organizations to consider patent licensing revenue as the only way of commercializing that research.

Clearly that is shortsighted, but there is such momentum (in the form of established procedures etc) that it can be hard to argue against.

But hey - were are close to the worst in the OECD at commercializing research, so something has to change.

(I work for an Australian CRC, but don't speak for them)

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#79

Advising anyone to move countries to go to Silicon Valley (or SFO) seems irresponsible with the out of control property market and all the social issues that come with it. http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2015/10/09/the_median_rent_for...

Telling anyone from Sydney about an "out of control property market" seems... ill-advised.

Re: Atlassian's success reminds what a crappy place Australia is for tech business

#80

There is always more the government can do but there are two major government assistance programs I was not aware of till I founded a startup here. https://www.austrade.gov.au/Australian/Export/Export-Grants/... will reimburse 50% of your sales and marketing costs. So you can go spend $100k on Google Adwords and get $50k back effectively meaning you can outbid all your competitors for the same keywords. https://www.a…

Am I wrong in thinking there's a fat chance that the US govt. is funneling money to tech startups? I doubt there are grants for this stuff in Silicon Valley. Maybe some sort of trickle down effect from the money that goes into Amazon, intel, MS & IBM. Not sure every home in the US is getting the claimed 10gig internet pipes neither.

Yeah you're wrong. The US Government has a $146 billion R&D budget. That kind of spending has directly contributed to the US success in tech.

The government - university partnerships have been a massive boon to the US tech industry.

They have billions in business grants that you can apply for, covering just about everything you can think of going on in the economy. That includes advanced science and engineering grants, projects at the most cutting edge.

Every home is definitely not getting 10gbps pipes, yet. The US deserves a lot of flack for its poor broadband deployment the prior decade. However it is now undergoing an accelerating broadband boom (as in 100mbps+), probably mostly thanks to Google.

Post reply on HN