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Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by paulddraper »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #61
SCAQTony wrote: post #52

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...But how long will it take for paternal leave to trickle down to the largest employers in America who pay near or at minimum wage? 1) Wal-Mart Stores 2,200,000 2) Yum! Brands 523,000 3) McDonald's 440,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers_in_t... IMHO a billionaire taking a two-month leave will not inspire a majority of the top 50 employers to allow their male workforce to take 2-months off. Y…

This is probably going to get me voted down, but maybe...just maybe ...you shouldn't be having kids if the only job you can get is McDonalds or Yum! Brands (i.e., Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, etc.). If you choose to have a child when your resources are that limited, your non-paternity leave is going to be among the least of the child's problems.

There are worse things than poverty. Like that comment.

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Post by iLiveInAfrica »

iLiveInAfrica wrote: post #177

on an interesting note: i can't wait to hear the answer to this question (if he already hasn't answered it) "would you let your kid use internet.org to access the Internt"

to all the down voters: I would like to know the reason (I thought I followed the guidelines)

and for the record (again), I really live in Africa

the main reason this story qualified as a "news" in the first place is because he's (Mark) is pretty important/influential & with that, normal people like me have questions for them - that's all I did, asked an interesting question (especially from my pov)

thanks

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Post by lghh »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #297
lghh wrote: post #272

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No, I am suggesting that people born into poverty are much more likely to stay in poverty and people not born in poverty are much more likely to stay out of poverty. Poverty is generational, social conditions can be passed down from parent to child without being genetic.

"No, I am suggesting that people born into poverty are much more likely to stay in poverty" And I am advocating for fewer people being born into poverty. Why are you opposed to this?

I agree that having fewer people being born into poverty is a thing we should strive for, so I am not opposed to it like you claim I am. What I am opposed to is your method and reasoning for that method.

Your method is that poor people should not have kids due to their inability to easily provide for those kids. In not having kids, they bring less people into an impoverished social standing that is hard to break out of. By this reasoning, should people with less desirable traits (history of heart disease, cancer, etc) not have kids to help eradicate those traits? There is a chance their child will not have those specific traits or htey will take, like there is a chance that a child will move out of poverty.

Of course not, that's absurd.

Other than the self regulation of impoverished people to not have kids to help eradicate poverty, which is what you are describing, I would rather see social means to help those people escape poverty.

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Post by scott_karana »

x5n1 wrote: post #77
bbq wrote: post #51

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Can you point me to any historical titans of industry who regret their life's work?

This guy once gave at talk at my university where he said he regretted not doing a lot of things because he was working and now he was too old to do them because of his health. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Schulich

His book "Get Smarter" is a pretty amusing read, too.

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Post by scott_karana »

facepalm wrote: post #289
serge2k wrote: post #46

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Oh great, I can stop getting paid just as I have a kid. That sounds wonderful.

Kids cost money either way. You probably decided having kids would be worth it for you. What is 3 unpaid months - let's say 30000$? That is nothing compared to what you'll pay for your kid over time.

Kids cost a lot spread gradually over time, for the most part.

If your monthly expenses increase by ~$100-$400 a month at first, that's reasonably survivable for the majority of couples, and other increases can be planned for.

If your month income suddenly declines by $10000 a month as in your example, you're probably fucked.

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Post by nasalgoat »

seattle_spring wrote: post #79
oneJob wrote: post #49

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I had a sorta different reaction. I thought, it'd be amazing if everyone at Facebook had the option to take two months off for paternity leave and prioritize family over business without worrying about losing their job or good favor with their supervisor.

Then prepare to be amazed, because they actually have four months paid paternity leave.

What I find amazing is that the US still doesn't have Federal paid maternity leave.

I thankfully live in Canada, a civilized country that allows a full year.

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Post by bertil »

SamSkillz wrote: post #304
bertil wrote: post #244

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You can take them in several periods. In Mark’s case, a long contiguous departure puts a lot on Sheryl Sandberg’s shoulders; she recently lost her husband and has children of her own, so that might not be ideal. Internally, Mark’s work ethic is… known to be high, and less a model than the many other employees who become parents. Because employees tend to be Facebook-friends with everyone they know internally, you see…

DOES it put a "lot on her shoulders"? Does it really? At a company as large as Facebook, is there ever really so much riding on any particular person in management? I doubt it.

I’m not familiar enough with the higher management, but yes, there are many incredible people to support both. I suspect that when it comes to dealing with parties like high-level political players, or being the public face of the company, they are unique. I'm noticing Lori Goler's name more in the press; that could be an effort to avoid that. Chris Cox, Boz, Shrep and Jay Parish are all people I wish people knew more about (outside of Hacker News; any regular here not knowing them is a clearly at a loss).

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Post by randyrand »

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #75
randyrand wrote: post #50

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Out of curiosity, would this apply if you were say a lead actor in a movie? 6 week multi-million dollar production stall would in my mind be fair ground for not hiring an actor, but I take it that's illegal.

This is getting nitpicky against your very valid point, but I think most actors are 1099 contractors so it doesn't apply

I imagine you have to be right. For the majority of employees a 6 week break is no big deal. But for some specialty industries you just can't hire people that plan on taking a 6 week break in the middle of production.
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