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Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by lacker »

engi_nerd wrote: post #13

I am jealous. My mega-large, hyphenated corporation only gives 40 hours. Which I have just had approved (today!) so that I could help care for my newborn son while my wife recovers from caesarian section. Doing this required multiple calls to a third party company that hypenated-corporation has subcontracted their leave and disability claims to, as well as about 30 pages worth of paperwork. I spent about half as much…

FWIW, at Facebook you still have to deal with some ugly B2B system to report your leave. "Matrix e-systems". Apparently the nest of laws that cover leave is complicated enough that you basically have to hire someone to handle compliance. Everyone (male or female) gets 4 months though, which is quite nice and makes it worth navigating through this janky form-filling.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by outside1234 »

PinguTS wrote: post #35

To be honest, compared to Germany that is not a good news. In Germany, you can have this up to 36 months (3 years) for both parants and your employer can't send you a notice to quit. So, to be honest, I have to laugh at Zuck. Or say it another way: I think, he does not value his kids. I am a shamed of him.

Why only 3 years? Perhaps the corporation should have to pay for all 18 years while the child is being reared.

Shame on Germany for not valuing the kids!

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by rezashirazian »

ryguytilidie wrote: post #32

Former Facebook employee here. I was never as impressed with Mark as many I've spoken with, but this is really impressive. I also hope it shows how Sheryl should be a CEO somewhere ASAP.

This comment makes no sense to me.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by serge2k »

logn wrote: post #38
engi_nerd wrote: post #13

I am jealous. My mega-large, hyphenated corporation only gives 40 hours. Which I have just had approved (today!) so that I could help care for my newborn son while my wife recovers from caesarian section. Doing this required multiple calls to a third party company that hypenated-corporation has subcontracted their leave and disability claims to, as well as about 30 pages worth of paperwork. I spent about half as much…

FYI you can probably take 12 weeks unpaid leave, as guaranteed by FMLA. I'm guessing your employer would exercise the option to pay out vacation time concurrently. To take FMLA requires nothing more than telling your boss you need time off to take care of a newborn (or any other valid reason), so it's not too late. They can make you fill out paperwork but denying the leave if it's valid is illegal. You're guaranteed…

Oh great, I can stop getting paid just as I have a kid. That sounds wonderful.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by icebraining »

nostrebored wrote: post #30
mentos wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't 2 a good balance between all and none?

Not really? Maybe I'm a bit pushy, but I think that people should take all of the time allotted for them to take care of their kids, bond with their kids, and support their partner. If he is banking it for later, great, if not, the work you're doing on social media is not more important than your child.

Considering his wealth, Zuckerberg could leave the company and dedicate his life to his child. In that light, is the 4 vs 2 months really relevant? Aren't both choices failing to uphold the principle you've stated?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by x5n1 »

acangiano wrote: post #7

This is great. It sends the message that no matter who you are, prioritizing family over business is an option, especially when a newborn has arrived. I'm also willing to bet that it's good for business. An employee with better relationships at home is more likely to be productive at work in the long term.

Zuck could take the rest of his life off work. And when he's an old man he will wish that he had. But in the mean time the share holders can benefit from his keen.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by oneJob »

acangiano wrote: post #7

This is great. It sends the message that no matter who you are, prioritizing family over business is an option, especially when a newborn has arrived. I'm also willing to bet that it's good for business. An employee with better relationships at home is more likely to be productive at work in the long term.

I had a sorta different reaction. I thought, it'd be amazing if everyone at Facebook had the option to take two months off for paternity leave and prioritize family over business without worrying about losing their job or good favor with their supervisor.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by randyrand »

scurvy wrote: post #24
engi_nerd wrote: post #13

I am jealous. My mega-large, hyphenated corporation only gives 40 hours. Which I have just had approved (today!) so that I could help care for my newborn son while my wife recovers from caesarian section. Doing this required multiple calls to a third party company that hypenated-corporation has subcontracted their leave and disability claims to, as well as about 30 pages worth of paperwork. I spent about half as much…

Bummer. Move to a state with family leave laws. CA gives 6 weeks of paid leave to everyone: http://www.edd.ca.gov/disability/FAQ_PFL_Benefits.htm

Out of curiosity, would this apply if you were say a lead actor in a movie? 6 week multi-million dollar production stall would in my mind be fair ground for not hiring an actor, but I take it that's illegal.
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