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Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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To be honest, compared to Germany that is not a good news. In Germany, you can have this up to 36 months (3 years) for both parants and your employer can't send you a notice to quit. So, to be honest, I have to laugh at Zuck. Or say it another way: I think, he does not value his kids. I am a shamed of him.

You've forgot to mention that up to 14 months from those 3 years are paid.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#73
post #8

Ugh. I'm not trying to be super negative, but he's setting a bad precedent by taking half the amount of allowed leave. "We offer 4 months, but Zuck only took 2. Wanna be like Zuck?" He should take the full 4 months and show everyone that it's OK. This is like the unspoken mantra of "unlimited vacation" really being only 2 - 2.5 weeks.

It must be tough being the CEO of facebook. This is his own company which I'm sure he loves running and wants to continue to do so. But he's in a situation where the social and political climate basically dictates that he take paternity leave. The same climate also dictates that if he takes any less than the full amount, he's sending a message that the whole four months is a gesture of goodwill and you should only ta…

Dude can do whatever he wants for the rest of his life. His only handcuffs are the ones he chooses for himself.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#74
post #49

This is great. It sends the message that no matter who you are, prioritizing family over business is an option, especially when a newborn has arrived. I'm also willing to bet that it's good for business. An employee with better relationships at home is more likely to be productive at work in the long term.

I had a sorta different reaction. I thought, it'd be amazing if everyone at Facebook had the option to take two months off for paternity leave and prioritize family over business without worrying about losing their job or good favor with their supervisor.

How is that different from acangiano's point?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#75
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bummer. Move to a state with family leave laws. CA gives 6 weeks of paid leave to everyone: http://www.edd.ca.gov/disability/FAQ_PFL_Benefits.htm

Out of curiosity, would this apply if you were say a lead actor in a movie? 6 week multi-million dollar production stall would in my mind be fair ground for not hiring an actor, but I take it that's illegal.

This is getting nitpicky against your very valid point, but I think most actors are 1099 contractors so it doesn't apply

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably going to get me voted down, but maybe...just maybe ...you shouldn't be having kids if the only job you can get is McDonalds or Yum! Brands (i.e., Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, etc.). If you choose to have a child when your resources are that limited, your non-paternity leave is going to be among the least of the child's problems.

This and moralizing about the smoking and drinking of the lower classes sound reasonable, but they're basically non-starters. You don't stop having basic human desires when you're poor. And as long as people are having sex, some of them are going to have kids.

Not to mention that sex is free (well, generally) so it's an even easier and more available option than drugs or alcohol to distract yourself from crushing poverty.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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post #51
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zuck could take the rest of his life off work. And when he's an old man he will wish that he had. But in the mean time the share holders can benefit from his keen.

Can you point me to any historical titans of industry who regret their life's work?

This guy once gave at talk at my university where he said he regretted not doing a lot of things because he was working and now he was too old to do them because of his health.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Schulich

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#78

I am jealous. My mega-large, hyphenated corporation only gives 40 hours. Which I have just had approved (today!) so that I could help care for my newborn son while my wife recovers from caesarian section. Doing this required multiple calls to a third party company that hypenated-corporation has subcontracted their leave and disability claims to, as well as about 30 pages worth of paperwork. I spent about half as much…

Wow. My wife had a section with our first, 2 months early, with some weeks in the NICU afterwards. I had absolutely no inkling that recovery would be so hard for my wife; I'd always heard "too posh to push" and thought she was getting the easy way out! It's a brutal surgery and she struggled to do basic things for weeks. Fortunately I worked for a small firm at the time, directly for the CEO, and whatever our HR policy was didn't matter as I was given essentially free reign to manage my time and work from home as needed. I was able to be largely absent for weeks, going to the office when she had help at home.

You have my heartfelt sympathy. 40hrs is pathetic, insulting, and the process for you to get it is frankly dehumanizing. Fortunately those scumbags will pale into insignificance as you get to know your son.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#79
post #49

This is great. It sends the message that no matter who you are, prioritizing family over business is an option, especially when a newborn has arrived. I'm also willing to bet that it's good for business. An employee with better relationships at home is more likely to be productive at work in the long term.

I had a sorta different reaction. I thought, it'd be amazing if everyone at Facebook had the option to take two months off for paternity leave and prioritize family over business without worrying about losing their job or good favor with their supervisor.

Then prepare to be amazed, because they actually have four months paid paternity leave.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

#80
post #49

This is great. It sends the message that no matter who you are, prioritizing family over business is an option, especially when a newborn has arrived. I'm also willing to bet that it's good for business. An employee with better relationships at home is more likely to be productive at work in the long term.

I had a sorta different reaction. I thought, it'd be amazing if everyone at Facebook had the option to take two months off for paternity leave and prioritize family over business without worrying about losing their job or good favor with their supervisor.

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