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This is great news. Now all we need is a proper terminal in Windows that includes Python out of the box ;)
The terminal in windows 10 is much improved. Specifically copy and paste being less insane, and proper multi-line selection. I'm sure it is still deficient in many ways, but those were always the biggest irritations. No built-in python yet though.
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Honest question: how many people from the embrace-extend-extinguish era are still at Microsoft? Once they are all gone, and the market has shifted several times since then, you would think that era would be over for them. Or, is it just deeply engrained in their corporate culture, which lives in longer than any individual employee? I kind of doubt it but it's interesting to think about.
The computer technology world has changed a lot since then, and I expect that intelligent people at Microsoft know that the old ways won't work again.
I'm not nearly as confident as you seem to be.
People with purchasing power can still be swayed by FUD. Less-technical bosses are not-infrequently swayed by marketing copy from glossy mags and giveaways from salesman rather than sound technical advice from technical staff. It's abundantly clear that shadowy back-room deals and front-room exclusionary deals based on tremendous price cuts on widgets that have a near-zero unit cost are still tremendously effective.
I expect that within five or ten years, after this new crop of programmers have happily been making Microsoft software a critical part of their workflow, Microsoft will return to its traditional MO.
As I said earlier, for many of us this isn't our first rodeo, and isn't the first time Microsoft has played the nice guy for a little while. :)
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> If they keep it up with actions such as these, there's a good chance they'll stand to be rewarded for it. And -quickly enough- they'll go back to being the old MSFT we all knew and loathed from top to bottom, and these olive branches will vanish quicker than a pile of shaved ice on a summer day. For many of us, this isn't our first rodeo. :)
Honest question: how many people from the embrace-extend-extinguish era are still at Microsoft? Once they are all gone, and the market has shifted several times since then, you would think that era would be over for them. Or, is it just deeply engrained in their corporate culture, which lives in longer than any individual employee? I kind of doubt it but it's interesting to think about.
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This is great news. Now all we need is a proper terminal in Windows that includes Python out of the box ;)
The terminal in windows 10 is much improved. Specifically copy and paste being less insane, and proper multi-line selection. I'm sure it is still deficient in many ways, but those were always the biggest irritations. No built-in python yet though.
I shed a tear of joy when that finally happened.
Now if only I could have terminal-tabs powershell would be perfect.
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The terminal in windows 10 is much improved. Specifically copy and paste being less insane, and proper multi-line selection. I'm sure it is still deficient in many ways, but those were always the biggest irritations. No built-in python yet though.
The command prompt looks the same in Windows 8.1 and 10 to me. What terminal are you talking about?
I first started using it a few years back because it uses 'ls' instead of 'dir' for a directory list. Over time I've learned more and more about how its improved over CMD... and it has gotten even better in windows 10.
May not quite be 100% as good as terminal on OSX but it really is very good.
Funny annecdote. I was at a clojure meetup last night tapping away on my windows 10 laptop and the developer behind me said "is that Ubuntu?" I told him that it was W10 and he said "wow, I guess I might finally have to admit that windows doesn't look terrible anymore"
I felt like that was pretty high praise given the audience.
>TIME-SENSITIVE SOFTWARE. The software will stop running on 31/12/2016 (day/month/year). You will not receive any other notice. You may not be able to access data used with the software when it stops running. What does this mean. Should I expect a working VCS instead of this one in 2017? Is not a condition I like in the terms of my main tool.
Has anyone spent a lot of time with VS Code? I tried it a while back when it was first announced and have not found a reason to re-visit it yet. At the time it felt like a sublime-text alternative instead of an IDE (was it always positioned to be just an editor?) Always great to see more options though.
I'm not properly coding in it yet.
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Ya, Electron != Atom. Grab Code and paste that giant JSON into Code and let us know how it goes.
visual studio code seems way faster, pasting the object was nearly instantaneous and it looks like it has a nice set of features. also, i feel i should add, i realize electron is independent of atom, however it was developed by a github engineer previously working on nodewebkit for the github texteditor called atom. it used to be called "Atom Shell" and is in the atom/electron repo. So I was curious if this was relat…
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That's the entire idea behind the name. When you go to the website or start searching around for "Visual Studio Code" you quickly end up with links to Visual Studio (obviously) and Azure. Make no mistake. Microsoft is not developing Visual Studio code out of the goodness of their hearts. This is a marketing strategy to get people to move to Azure.
Developing Code out of the goodness of their hearts? No. Developing Code as part of some convoluted marketing strategy that cannot be measured? Also no. More likely they're developing Code to compete with Sublime Text and the like. They don't have a product in that market and Microsoft's strategy is what it's always been: gaining marketshare. Microsoft's success is [now] defined by developers active on MS technology.…
BTW it may sound like I'm being harsh on Microsoft but actually I think their strategy is brilliant. It legitimizes Open Source in every single way and shows the world that you can make money off of it - lots of money.
Open Source developers should be rejoicing now that they have been vindicated after so many years of not being taken seriously and even being called "Communists".
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If it were opt-in, I would absolutely opt-into it. I want the companies who make products I use/consume to succeed - that's why I never install ad-block. I watch tons of shows on YouTube and niche video sites, and I know the ads are what help these companies stay alive. While I know installing ad-block is still opt-out (not -in), it's still a choice of a click that I'm making. I want to support you, but I don't want…
By doing that, you're implicitly saying "exploit me". You are helping them succeed, but only in the way that they want. I don't think subjecting yourself to such torture, when it will only bring more of the same, is a good idea.
Why is sending usage data to Microsoft saying "exploit me", but contributing free marketing to YCombinator is something you do daily?
The world doesn't have to operate on zero-sum principles. There's nothing wrong with helping someone or something out "just because".