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Not from MS, but a good IDE is MonoDevelop
I was more wondering about VSCode.
VSCode is not an IDE just yet
Visual Studio Code is now open source
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#292>TIME-SENSITIVE SOFTWARE. The software will stop running on 31/12/2016 (day/month/year). You will not receive any other notice. You may not be able to access data used with the software when it stops running.
What does this mean. Should I expect a working VCS instead of this one in 2017?
Is not a condition I like in the terms of my main tool.
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Yeah, I first noticed this on desktop software in the early 2000s. Knowing how people are using your products is pretty critical for software companies to improve.
And yet it clearly violates our expectations of privacy. You don't think clicking a menu on a desktop app will send a report back to Microsoft HQ. There are many ways to improve software that do not involve analyzing unwitting users, like making it clearly opt-in.
If it were opt-in, I would absolutely opt-into it. I want the companies who make products I use/consume to succeed - that's why I never install ad-block. I watch tons of shows on YouTube and niche video sites, and I know the ads are what help these companies stay alive.
While I know installing ad-block is still opt-out (not -in), it's still a choice of a click that I'm making. I want to support you, but I don't want the choice of privacy made for me.
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Long time Atom user here as well. When I first tried VS Code, the first thing that I noticed was how much better the performance was compared to Atom. From general snappiness of basic editing tasks to startup times to working with large files, VS Code simply outperformed Atom across the board according to my brief unscientific observations. At the time, I ended up sticking with Atom mainly because VS Code wasn't open…
This is my experience as well. I am really impressed at how VS Code as no problem working with large and minified files.
It really depends on how large is considered large, since for me it crashes when opening a 60MB XML file...
Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source
#295I wasn't sure what to expect from VSC, especially going into it I was worried that it would just be a MS-branded, bloated version of an already-slow Atom. My expectations were completely wrong, though. VSC is not bloated or slow. It's well-made. There aren't really any negative MS-flavored conventions as far as I can tell. This isn't MS Office (which I guess has its place but has gone off the deep end, IMHO). It look…
Incidental to your point but I wouldn't characterise Office as bloated or slow. Word, Excel, and PPT 2016 are all super snappy.
I'm pretty sure kup0 was referring to how Office has generally been in past versions. The latest version of Office are much better made and performant for the same reasons why VSC is well-made and performant: Microsoft has started taking these user experience issues a lot more seriously.
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>Only losing market share and power has made Microsoft produce software with reasonable quality, flexibility, and interoperability. And that, in my opinion, is the way it's supposed to work. Vendor's products gettin' ya down? Not being responsive to your needs and lacking in quality? Move elsewhere! Money talks. A good kick in the ass can be a humbling experience, and a good opportunity for the open-minded. It was a…
> If they keep it up with actions such as these, there's a good chance they'll stand to be rewarded for it. And -quickly enough- they'll go back to being the old MSFT we all knew and loathed from top to bottom, and these olive branches will vanish quicker than a pile of shaved ice on a summer day. For many of us, this isn't our first rodeo. :)
Honest question: how many people from the embrace-extend-extinguish era are still at Microsoft? Once they are all gone, and the market has shifted several times since then, you would think that era would be over for them. Or, is it just deeply engrained in their corporate culture, which lives in longer than any individual employee? I kind of doubt it but it's interesting to think about.
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There was a conference this morning. They announced a bunch of interesting newsworthy things within an hour. https://channel9.msdn.com/
Thanks for pointing that out. I do notice that the stories that do crop up to the top generally have to do with Microsoft open sourcing software, so in that sense the stories don't seem all that out of line with what I generally expect to see on front page of HN. But being a developer who remembers old Microsoft it's hard to accept them back into my life even if it is just a few links on a forum :) The conference doe…
I could be wrong, but I believe that number is only for the views on the recorded sessions. Probably most people saw it live.
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#298FYI, it seems that Visual Studio sends a lot of data about your usage back to Microsoft. "This includes information about how you use the products and services, such as the features you use, the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter." (among other things such as name & device identifiers https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229 ) You can disable this...but it requires you to re-disable it on every pr…
> the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter Is this for real? I had no option to disable it when installing VS Code. And it only said usage statistics! Nothing about recording my web-surf and search.
I doubt it tracks pages you visit in other applications…
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I'm struggling to understand how you are a hard core Linux user yet you've never heard of a good Linux IDE. KDevelop? Eclipse? Netbeans? KomodoIDE? Anything from JetBrains? And I don't even know what might be available on the Gnome side. Then there are all the great editors that sit right on the verge of being IDEs once you configure - Kate, KomodoEdit, Sublime Text and so many more. Personally the look at VS Code ma…
Of all those, jetbrains is the only company pushing the envelope in terms of productivity and tooling. It's a common meme that Visual Studio is an IDE wet dream. Is it really so hard to see?
Eclipse eclipse's JetBrains's products that much is a fact and it far exceeds Visual Studio still.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I do notice that the stories that do crop up to the top generally have to do with Microsoft open sourcing software, so in that sense the stories don't seem all that out of line with what I generally expect to see on front page of HN. But being a developer who remembers old Microsoft it's hard to accept them back into my life even if it is just a few links on a forum :) The conference doe…
I could be wrong, but I believe that number is only for the views on the recorded sessions. Probably most people saw it live.
It looks like the stats may not have been accumulating earlier. I just saw that the numbers are updated and the main keynote shows just over 6000 views and the other two keynotes are hovering around 1000 views.
By contrast I was curious to see what Google I/O keynote stats show on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V-fIGMDsmE
It appears that graph starts from day one at over 800,000 views (not sure if that number includes live broadcast stats).