I've seen a lot of HNers suggesting that we must over react and ramp up the war on terrorism. I'm all for cutting off immigration, but how will ramping up the wars do us any good? I don't see how another ten years "fixing" things is going to work.
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe that France didn't open its borders to this wave of refugees/migrants but I could be mistaken since I don't follow the news this closely.
France cannot really control the wave of migrants anyway. But it is unlikely that the terrorists are one of these migrants. My guess is that they were French nationals/residents.
Based on what? I'm pretty uninformed here, and it seems like a lot of people are bringing up refugees. Curious why you think the opposite.
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I'm not sure if I could keep a motivation like that if, for example, my family was killed by a drone strike.
Point taken, though many of those who are inspired to take up arms against innocent people have no such legitimate grievance.
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#74"Evil thrives when good men do nothing" gotta put a stop to this
What should be done? Bomb the hell out of the Syrians? Surely they have suffered enough. Iraq III? Maybe this time.... maybe.... Send the ground troops into Saudi? Quatar? Acknowledging that some of ISIS / Al-Qaeda gripes do have some merit, stop interfering in other countries affairs, stop propping up dictators because they are "our" dictator. Something else? Unfortunately for the Syrians, my money is on bomb the he…
Beyond that, there's not much more we can do.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think a major problem is that even they can't know who among them - in the big groups of refugees making the journey - is an isis member or supporter, and even if they're not, there's no telling who is going to radicalise in the future. The attacks earlier this year in paris weren't done by someone that came from that area, iirc.
Refugees carry little more than their shirts in their travels. Those guns and grenades didn't come with refugees. End of story.
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#77The French intelligence and counter terrorism units are either not doing their best or these terrorist are getting much better at covering their tracks.
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#78The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
It's much more likely that the terrorists come from the frustrated youth born and raised in France, than some fresh immigrants.
Re: Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
#79The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
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#80"Evil thrives when good men do nothing" gotta put a stop to this
What should be done? Bomb the hell out of the Syrians? Surely they have suffered enough. Iraq III? Maybe this time.... maybe.... Send the ground troops into Saudi? Quatar? Acknowledging that some of ISIS / Al-Qaeda gripes do have some merit, stop interfering in other countries affairs, stop propping up dictators because they are "our" dictator. Something else? Unfortunately for the Syrians, my money is on bomb the he…
Though fusion is a long way out, hypothetically, if we didn't have any reason to interfere and could just leave the Middle East to figure out its own problems, they wouldn't have a reason to see us as the enemy.