118 dead reported by AFP (80 inside Bataclan concert hall) and 4 terrorists executed by special forces
Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…
No, the number of innocent killed people is never irrelevant. Every single dead person is one dead person too much. Full stop. Edit: no need to further downvote as parent has changed his statement. Thanks parent poster.
Of course. But by the same reasoning, there is no difference if there were 1 or 118 victims, which is my point. It's not about keeping score.
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#23Thanks @U.S.A. for supporting about every Jihadi terror organization on this planet. We Europeans wont forget that.
Remember we need the salifists as allies against communism.
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#24According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…
You could probably phrase that first sentence a little better.
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#25"Evil thrives when good men do nothing" gotta put a stop to this
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#26The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
What do people think the refugees were running away from? Exactly these people.
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#28The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
Indeed. I'm sure a bunch of dipshits are already claiming that this is what happens when you allow Muslims into your country, somehow. Gonna wind up hurting a lot more innocent people.
Indeed - and calls for more surveillance will follow the next day. 100% sure. Terrible what happened, to say so. RIP.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…
Not all craziness is preventable by a security system.
You're right, but attacks that require supplies (especially supplies that aren't dual use, like guns) and coordination between many parties, are the types of attacks that the modern security apparatus is optimized for preventing.
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#30According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…
> Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective.
How can a country possibly prevent these things while still maintaining a free society?