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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by joeevans1000 »

vertis wrote: post #178

Slightly unrelated note, but I received a spam email from Michael@Livecoding.tv on Saturday. I will NEVER EVER use a site that spams like this: > Hey Luke, > I've been searching code repos and found that you also love coding. Would be cool to see your awesome code and projects on Livecoding.tv > Livecoding.tv is a livestreaming platform for coders to share their code and hang out. We have users from 194 countries and…

Do they really have 3,000 projects being built live at different times? When I've checked out the site there seems to be an average of 8-10 livestreams and around 20 on a busy evening. Right now there are 6. I know they aren't implying they have 3,000 concurrent streamers, but based on what I've seen I have to question this claim. I wonder if they count a single streaming as a project being built live, even if it is never repeated. Even then, I wonder about the 3,000 number.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by joeevans1000 »

deepnet wrote: post #182
vertis wrote: post #178

Slightly unrelated note, but I received a spam email from Michael@Livecoding.tv on Saturday. I will NEVER EVER use a site that spams like this: > Hey Luke, > I've been searching code repos and found that you also love coding. Would be cool to see your awesome code and projects on Livecoding.tv > Livecoding.tv is a livestreaming platform for coders to share their code and hang out. We have users from 194 countries and…

Weirdly on that page you can hire the CEO, Dr Micheal Garbade, for $35 / hr. https://www.livecoding.tv/drmjg HIRE ME

Perhaps a faster strategy would have been for the OP to just hire him to delete the account.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by DrMJG_HN »

david_mitchell wrote: post #172

I'd guess this sort of thing results from the obsession over growth. They are desperate to make their user aquisition/retention numbers look good so they do scammy things to keep accounts. It's sad to see the aggressive behaviour though.

No, is not the case and is not warranted to spread wrong information. Please see main reply.

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Post by joeevans1000 »

drakonka wrote: post #278

Just got another email from Michael trying to convince me that they did the right thing and deleted my videos from my account for me. I just cannot understand why they keep acting like this - did they think I'd forget that I deleted my own videos earlier in this process? http://i.imgur.com/Ea55D6G.png

"I hope the tension has calmed down a bit". That doesn't come across very well.

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Post by tobr »

DrMJG_HN wrote: post #274
drakonka wrote: post #255

Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from a…

Hi Liza – This is Michael from Livecoding.tv. I hope the tension has calmed down a bit. Am traveling in Europe and thus not always reading emails. Apology for how our support handled your account deletion request and the emails back and forth. It was not really nice and needed given that your account had no content on it, we even deleted all your videos, and disabled your account. They thought you were a troll and ju…

There are so many questions that are unanswered. "We are a small team" is not an excuse for what has happened.

Considering that your support person original said "I would be happy to delete your account", considering that someone at Livecoding.tv vandalized the profile page, and considering that the only thing the user has ever requested is for the account to be deleted - can you really say with a straight face at this point that deleting the account is "not needed"?

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Post by DrMJG_HN »

deadcoding wrote: post #160

Huh, I saw this livecoding site advertised here by the founders, seemed like a great idea and I hoped it would kick off. Sad to see the administration is unprofessional. I wonder how people can fail so hard at public relations. If they didn't want to delete her account all it would have taken is a "Sorry, accounts can't be deleted from livecoding.tv". Instead they had to turn this into something that destroys the rep…

To be frank, there were only a few videos on the account and the account was not even visited by any other user last 30 days. It was just pending on our tasklist.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by kuschku »

DrMJG_HN wrote: post #276
kuschku wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The user in question here is in the EU, the startup has their HQ in the EU, so EU data laws apply, and the user has to be able to delete their account and all data stored.

I don't think there is a need to discuss where legal headquarters is. We just had a backlog of backend tasks pending. It was just a matter of time.

It is necessary to discuss where legal headquarters is for the purpose of suing the site for libel, slander and violation of data laws.

The site has already been reported by an affected user to the local EU data protection officer, so the legal fallout has already started.

If you still have shares in the company, sell.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by joeevans1000 »

sama wrote: post #231
empressplay wrote: post #214

So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (because common sense would suggest they would have by now, if they could have, to mitigate the on-going public-relations disaster) probably because they outsourced all of their development and really have no clue about how their website actually works. Under norma…

YC is an investor in the company. We've been trying all day to reach the CEO and we've been unsuccessful so far. Obviously, this is very bad and we hope the company will fix it quickly.

I'm concerned that many comments on this suggest that the problem is that the CEO needs better PR. It's scarier to me that this sort of behavior could hide behind PR. For tech in general I think ethics needs to be considered more than PR, as that's the heart of the matter. Clearly, those who've signed up for Livecoding are somewhat scared that this team has their data. I understand YC can't run these companies, but I think we do look at YC investment as a sort of assurance that this sort of thing won't happen.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by DrMJG_HN »

gxespino wrote: post #251

Shame. I was really enjoying streaming while I coded. Not so much the livecoding platform (very buggy from my experience), but the activity itself. I don't think I'll stream on their site again after this. Can't stand to support founders who treat their users like this. Twitch.tv it is.

It was just a backlog we had. Her account and the multiple accounts her friends created days ago never had any big content on them. There is really no incentive for her request not to be fulfilled. You can contact awakekat on Livecoding.tv to hear her feedback on how we treat women: https://www.livecoding.tv/awakekat/

Her friends just created multiple accounts within a short time frame and thus our support thought they were just trolling together.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by drakonka »

DrMJG_HN wrote: post #289
gxespino wrote: post #251

Shame. I was really enjoying streaming while I coded. Not so much the livecoding platform (very buggy from my experience), but the activity itself. I don't think I'll stream on their site again after this. Can't stand to support founders who treat their users like this. Twitch.tv it is.

It was just a backlog we had. Her account and the multiple accounts her friends created days ago never had any big content on them. There is really no incentive for her request not to be fulfilled. You can contact awakekat on Livecoding.tv to hear her feedback on how we treat women: https://www.livecoding.tv/awakekat/ Her friends just created multiple accounts within a short time frame and thus our support thought th…

I don't know of any friends creating multiple accounts at all. If anything my friends learned to _never_ create an account with your site. I would also appreciate it if you did not "play dumb" in your communications with me. To be honest I can't believe this is actually still happening: http://i.imgur.com/NT6xH5X.png
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