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New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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it looks like a copy of macbook, and I love microsoft for that, actually might buy this because of that fact. the tablet laptop thing is a must if you spend a lot of time in front of a computer. Unfortunately, sometimes you need a keyboard to answer emails and get stuff done.

What, a copy of a MacBook with a touch screen, pen operation, a serious GPU, and a detachable screen that works as a tablet running iPad-style apps?

Still waiting for a MacBook that does any of that ;-)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day. That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.

Looks like one request to 'controls.account.microsoft-int.com/me?partner=surface&market=en-us' makes whole page very slow, at least for me it waits for 20 seconds and only after it fails page continues loading.

Yeah, I noticed that blocking the microsoft-int.com domain lets the page load just fine, without the hang. (I'm using the RequestPolicy addon in Firefox.)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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What Microsoft has done today is prove they're very focused about providing a top of the line personal computing experience. You can argue about server, but when it comes to applications (which are floating windows), Microsoft Windows has proven they can keep that title for their operating system. I'm glad to see them take ownership over the hardware. That has always been the black mark. I build my own PCs and always…

Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc. And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great…

At the risk of sounding overly snarky: Top-notch does not mean putting the Goddamned Metro UI, a thing for users on touch screens, on a Goddamned SERVER OS like they did with 2012.

It's insanity. Every time I have to RDP into a 2012 machine, I cringe a bit. Whoever was responsible for that decision should be shot, and the corpse fired.

For all Microsoft has been doing to improve their standing lately, they still make some rather absurd missteps...

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Available with 16g RAM. Interesting. The upcoming XPS 13 refresh supposedly offers 16g, too, but the current version doesn't. I wonder how well a Microsoft laptop is going to support Linux.

Honestly, if Linux supported the pen fully, I'd buy one of these in a second. I feel like Microsoft has nailed it with their Surface Pro line.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPU, battery, keyboard, and IO ports.

Well, the photo with that caption is with the keyboard folded fully over backwards used as a pseudo-tablet. No keyboard use in that case, and probably no IO either.

USB ports, dock, and SD card will work no matter what orientation the screen is in.

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I think this device really shows the different approaches of Apple and Microsoft to "tablets". When the iPad Pro was announced, many joked about the fact that it was just like a surface. With the release of this device from Microsoft, the look even more similar then before from the outside. Still, the huge difference in the approach is the software. Microsoft is bending a computer operating system, with a full hardwa…

Microsoft isn't bending anything. Windows 10 has two distinct APIs for different types of program. The old Win32 API handles traditional desktop software and the separate Windows Runtime is used for sandboxed apps that can be installed and updated from the Windows Store. If you're writing for Windows Runtime, you are as fully touch-enabled as you are with an iPad, and the apps run in a similar way. The complaints abo…

On an added note, the "Tablet Mode" in Windows 10 is actually pretty decent with traditional desktop apps.

I run Chrome on my Vivotab in Tablet Mode so that I can still access 1Password, and it is surprisingly usable (haha, weak praise, but still praise).

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Are the bootloaders locked?

I wonder how hard it would be to just virtualize linux all the time, rather than trying to load linux on new hardware. How much do you lose as the tech to virtualize gets better?

Why pay a license for a host OS if you just want to run Linux?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day. That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.

The offending resource is hosted at microsoft-int.com.

I'd bet good money that domain is "Microsoft Internal" and was never meant to go beyond staging.

I'm sure the site works perfectly in Redmond! ;-)

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