Also, the (pre)order page is here[0]
But without full specs ):
[0]http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Microsof...
New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft
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#282Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day. That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.
Looks like one request to 'controls.account.microsoft-int.com/me?partner=surface&market=en-us' makes whole page very slow, at least for me it waits for 20 seconds and only after it fails page continues loading.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's all there, just different. PowerShell = bash, Chocolatey = homebrew, Windows Server Containers = docker, Hyper-V+powershell = vagrant, DSC = ansible etc etc. I don't use Windows 10 for reference though. Still on 8.1 until they fix a few things and release a version-matched server platform.
So, no, developers on windows are not stumbling in the night. But also, no, your skills and familiarity are not transferable from OS X to Windows. In contrast, I was a desktop (laptop) Linux user until a year or so ago, and found my skills almost entirely transferable to OS X.
You're right, which is why I use all three platforms regularly.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed windows for development is not always as streamlined as a unix-based system like OS X. I use a surface pro 3 with windows 8.1 and wrote a python script that opens a cygwin terminal at the top of my screen to provide Guake-like functionality for windows. Most development work I do however is done within a Ubuntu virtual machine, but then again I've usually been doing web development over the past couple years.
Someday someone should write a book published by one of the tech book publishers about how to set up non Visual Studio dev environments on Windows (RoR, Django, PHP/MySQL, etc). It seems like things have gotten to the point where developing on Windows == MSFT dev tools, and everything else is Mac/*nix.
With WAMP you can get php and MySQL running quickly. Python and java also works very good on windows, both runtime and selection of dev environment.
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#285By reconnecting it to the keyboard, you unlock its full creative power in a pen first mode. Hmm... what does the keyboard contain? Are we looking at another dual-processor hybrid? Or perhaps only dual-graphics? Or even simpler, does the keyboard have most of the battery and so the screen aggressively throttles itself when undocked?
GPU, battery, keyboard, and IO ports.
Well, the photo with that caption is with the keyboard folded fully over backwards used as a pseudo-tablet. No keyboard use in that case, and probably no IO either.
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#286How much does the book’s base weigh? Why will no one tell me?
Starting at 3.34 lbs and 22.8mm thick. rMBP 13 is 3.48 lbs and 18mm thick. Similar weight but the rMBP is a fair bit thinner.
And that makes a huge difference how? I have one and they are great, but this thing has graphics card and is very powerful, on top of which it can work for 12h.
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#287I can't see giving up my 15" rMBP for this. Never have I ever wanted to take the screen off and use it as a tablet. And when I've been forced by circumstance to do development on my Windows machine it's been at best awkward. (Basically trying to recreate a Unix like experience via Cygwin or what have you.)
Exactly. MBP is so lightweight and robust that you can take it anywhere where you would take a tablet. Since I got my MBP I completely stopped using the Nexus 10 tablet (which I used a lot before that). The battery lasts as long for similar workloads, it's quiet, and having trackpad means that your screen doesn't get greasy. Having keyboard at hand is a plus. I really cannot think of a situation where a developer wou…
Well, it works with the Surface Pen, so for people who prefer pen and paper for note taking/drawing (like me), it would be useful in a meeting.
I can't imagine mouse/trackpad are as good as a pen for free-form drawing diagrams, etc.
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#288It's weird this forwarded me to "en-au", when I've always lived in the US. I had opened a separate tab directly to the Surface Book that was on the "en-us" site, and when I saw the device pricing, not knowing I was on AU, I was surprised to see the HUGE difference in price for the Surface Book from what I'd saw on the other page/tab -- 2.3K vs 1.5K. Hopefully that's rare for them, or there are going to be a lot of people turned off to that price point -- 2.3K for the Surface Book is insane.
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder how hard it would be to just virtualize linux all the time, rather than trying to load linux on new hardware. How much do you lose as the tech to virtualize gets better?
Not really the point. Sure I can stick Linux in a VM but what if I want to run something other than Windows on hardware that I own ?
Yeah, not your point, but it's a question for me. If the machine has drivers for the windows kernel, and probably terrible drivers for linux, how thin can that shim get?
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#290Typos, poor loading times. I'm not impressed, Microsoft!