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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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The Nexus 5X is built by LG. The 6P by Huawei. It's only been a few years since CBS/ 60 Minutes went on a veritable crusade [0][1] against Huawei, alleging security and espionage concerns. However, it's been confirmed since that the modus operandi of Western intelligence has been to simply to own everything in the telecommunications sector [2][3] , so it's not a large leap of logic to imagine they probably have copie…

There is always the black phone...

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HDR is a gimmick in the sense that it just takes information from the sensor to bring out highlights. This is the sort of thing that can be done in post-processing on any RAW image. Its not a feature of the camera itself.

That's not how it works. Here's the google research blog post about it. http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2014/10/hdr-low-light-and...

I know there's 2 ways to do HDR. Either way, there's been apps available for that for awhile.

Taking multiple exposures with a camera with an electronic shutter (pretty much all smartphones) is still just a 'trick'.

BTW, the Galaxy Note 3's stock camera app does HDR, I'm sure most phones already did a year ago...

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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My worry is that this is a gateway drug to "Fingerprint protect all the things!" My bank emailed me the other day with an announcement that I could access my account through their app via my fingerprint. WTF? My text messages are one thing by now my money is protected by just my fingerprint? I took my bank to task because they allowed my username to be twice as long as the allowed characters in my password. Someone a…

What can the bank app do? Mine can only deposit and view accounts, not withdraw or transfer. Open access to it would be weird, but not much worse than someone fishing my ATM receipts out of the trash to see my balance.

It's Bank of America, so it's about as feature-filled as a banking app gets. You can do all the normal stuff like check balances and deposit checks, but you can also open new accounts (including credit cards) and transfer money (between other accounts you own or to other people outside the bank). And yes, the app has the ability to add new transfer recipients, which only needs their email address or phone number. There is a protection to guard against unauthorized adding of new recipients, but you guessed it, the protection is in the form of a 2FA code sent via SMS. So if you're already in the phone and in the banking app you can add yourself as a transfer recipient with your email address and verify the recipient addition because you can read the incoming text messages too. And the warning email that comes when you add a new recipient and initiate a new transfer is likely going to come to the same phone you're currently holding. If you get into my banking app through my phone you can send yourself as much of my money as you want and cover your tracks so I wouldn't know until my next statement comes, and to top it all off, it looks like I was the one who sent the money to you, so how am I going to argue that I didn't?

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Was looking at 6P (and I was very close to press an order button), but it turns out both 5x and 6P won't cover T-mobile VoLTE / Band 12, at least at its launch, which is a bit disappointing. [1]

At least it seems to be supporting Wi-Fi calling, but makes me curious about their time frame, if ever, VoLTE / Band 12 will be supported on these devices.

[1]: http://www.tmonews.com/2015/09/nexus-5x-and-nexus-6p-dont-su...

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

I am in the same boat. Wireless charging seems to be something very few people use, but those that do love it so much they would not want to trade it. Being able to simply lay my phone on my bedside table at night and have it fully charged the next morning is such a nice thing to have.

I'm hooked. I never worry about the battery. It's dead simple to drop my phone on a charging pad at home, at work, and in the car.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

It's only got a single front facing speaker too.

The specs say: Dual front-facing stereo speakers.

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Why did Google bother with all of that work to fix SD storage in Android M[0] if they're still not going to put an SD card in their Nexus phones!?! I was holding out hope that I would finally have a reason to buy a Nexus phone with the 5X or 6P, but now that we have the final spec sheet, I think I'm going to just grab an HTC One M9 or something. The lack of expandable storage really kills it for me. [0] http://www.an…

It simplifies managing storage for users. Per Matias Duarte, who I think was Director of Android User Experience at the time: [1] Everybody likes the idea of having an SD card, but in reality it's just confusing for users. If you’re saving photos, videos or music, where does it go? Is it on your phone? Or on your card? ... We take a different approach. Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamles…

Since every Android phone I've ever had takes SD, the process of transferring all my data over is basically just pulling the card out of the old phone and putting it into the new phone. This unfortunately doesn't handle reinstallation of my apps and migration of data like texts and calls. Google's done all this work, and there still isn't a simple migration path. Give me a simple way to boot up the 6P and have all my data migrated over, and I'll kiss my SD card goodbye. In the meantime, the user experience is still broken.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

So the thing is, the Nexus 5 was a near-perfect phone (especially considering it was released two years ago), and it's totally reasonable to think it's still doing the job very well -- it is. But that's a fact about the N5, not the N5X/6P. I mean, what would you want from a new phone that would show up on a spec sheet? Faster? Check, both of these are. The 808/810 aren't gigantic generational leaps over the 800, but…

Agree with you. Another thing I would stress on is the price constraint. Don't forget that Nexus 5 was said to be a high-end phone but 200$ cheaper.

Given a price to stick to, it is very difficult to improve the specs substantially to wow the existing customers. Look at Oneplus one- the flagship killer and its successor- two not considered to be killer at all. I don't think existing customers would want to upgrade to the newer version.

Speaking as someone who does not own a Nexus 5, I would say I am very impressed by the specs and am waiting to purchase it. There aren't many phones better than this (keeping in mind the price).

A lot of Nexus 5 owners have pointed that the newer one does not have wireless charging and OIS. I feel that improving the overall experience matters more. Even though both are nice-to-have features it still does not help the crappy battery and low-quality camera that much. The 5x solves the existential funks first by adding those improvements. And due to the price limitation the nice-to-have features had to be dropped.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Interestingly my problems with it are exactly three things that aren't addressed in the new models: 1. The wireless charging, while seemingly a small thing, was to me a huge improvement in my experience of using the phone. The fact that I can sit down at my desk, plop the phone down, and it'll just work, and when I get up to leave I can just pull it off my desk. Removing the USB cable interaction made the phone a muc…

> 2. Lack of removable storage. Small deal but it was a nice quality of life feature. Nexus phones never had an SD card unless you count the Nexus One. The Nexus One really needed it though, since it only had 512MB of storage. Every phone since has had enough it isn't a huge deal.

I upgraded from a Galaxy S3 that suddenly died, so I was a bit peeved when I suddenly couldn't just move my SD card over. You're right though, in reality it's not a big deal, but it would've been nice to be able to just slot an extra 32gb into the side. It's not absolutely necessary, but since I upgrade on a long cycle, the extra storage lets me extend my phone's obsolescence cycle a bit more.
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